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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd he thinks he has a genius level IQ despite all evidence to the contrary."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostHmm. There might be a connection there.
Because I've generally found the whole US conservative desire to slavishly follow alpha-male / strong-man figures (e.g. Trump) to be bizarre and inexplicable to me and something I just can't at all empathize with (for me, the more power someone has the more suspicious of them I am likely to be, the less likely I am to wish to follow their orders, and the more 'alpha-male' they are in style the more likely all my BS detectors are to go off). It comes across as if they have a deep-seated sense of lack of their own manliness and so are looking round for a 'real man' somewhere they can obey and in doing so compensate for the lack of their own alpha-maleness or something.
It's a psychological pattern I see among US conservatives that I haven't observed in my own country. Your comment makes me wonder if it's a mindset that comes from religious belief. If their religion gets them into the mindset of worshiping God the ultimate authority-figure, who ought to be worshiped and obeyed and submitted to and followed because he is powerful and has a big carrot/stick (heaven/hell)... then I guess it cultivates a mindset of submission to human men who are powerful and have a big carrot/stick due to their political power. Although I don't know if that really explains why the US conservatives pine desperately for a particular aura of alpha-maleness rather than happily submit to any kind of leader (e.g. why not follow latte-sipping Obama who liked explaining his decisions and presenting them in a conversational way, rather than in the alpha-male kind of way that conservatives love to be commanded in? They seem to love authoritarian tone rather than merely power per se)...Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostFascinating. That doesn't describe me or anyone I know in the slightest.
"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostVeritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post[Obama] was no alpha male.
160112.Obama.bowing.jpgSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI don't think anyone would confuse Chris Matthews with a US conservative/Evangelical - and Obama had arrogance down pat, but he was no alpha male."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Posti meant that his description applies very well to the average liberal.
And Obama was an alpha male. Merely being president makes you one by default.Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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Originally posted by JimL View PostReally? Who'd you vote for?Last edited by RumTumTugger; 01-10-2018, 01:06 PM.
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"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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