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Originally posted by Tassman View PostJust keep telling yourself that.
Originally posted by Tassman View PostNo, Trump is blessed by the ignorant white Evangelicals for whom he can do no wrong. He has no other support.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI will go on thinking that, OBP.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNo, Trump is blessed by the ignorant white Evangelicals for whom he can do no wrong.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostRepublicans do not believe in a social saftey net Sparko, they don't believe in their tax dollars going towards such things that they they themselves may not even benefit from. Where have you been?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou're no better than Mountain Man's belief that liberals are irredeemably stupid.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI guess I'm responding to an old post, but this statement is far too broad and sweeping. Some Republicans don't believe in a social safety net. Most of the ones I know don't believe in a social safety net that creates long-term entitlement. It is a view I generally agree with.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI've only ever said that jokingly. I know a lot of liberals who are very intelligent and well-educated people. They just happen to be idiots when it comes to politics and public policy. It's a curious phenomenon that often leaves me scratching my head.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostJim is the master builder of mighty men of straw. Most of us have said repeatedly we do not oppose safety nets for those who need them. And the creation of long-term (unnecessary) entitlements is definitely a problem. (there are some cases, no doubt, where long-term care is warranted)
The IRS is a great case in point. It is so hated, that the budget has been repeatedly slashed under Republican leadership. The consequence? The U.S. Tax system is largely an "honor" system. The IRS has historically done spot-check audits, especially among the worst offenders. Now they lack the resources to do so. The estimate is that we gain $4 in revenue for every $1 spent on enforcement of the tax code. So, once again, an action that benefits primarily large corporations and large tax payers (e.g., the wealthy).The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI find that the problem (in general) with the left is they tend to create these programs without thinking through the consequences, and get caught enabling instead of truly empowering.
Not always, but often enough for it to be an issue. The problem (in general) with the right is that they slash and burn funding to programs with little or no thought given to their efficacy and impact.
If it smells like "entitlement," cut it!
As a consequence, many programs that have been shown to have long-term benefits and reduce costs to us taxpayers have been slashed, eliminating those benefits and increasing costs.
The IRS is a great case in point. It is so hated, that the budget has been repeatedly slashed under Republican leadership. The consequence? The U.S. Tax system is largely an "honor" system. The IRS has historically done spot-check audits, especially among the worst offenders. Now they lack the resources to do so. The estimate is that we gain $4 in revenue for every $1 spent on enforcement of the tax code. So, once again, an action that benefits primarily large corporations and large tax payers (e.g., the wealthy).The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYour best three examples, please?
Another is the penal system. To save $, the government moved to "outsource" to the private sector. But the private sector has ZERO interest in programs to deal with recidivism or control/reduce jail time, because they get paid for every night they have someone in custody. Since this outsourcing, recidivism has skyrocketed and, with it, or penal system costs. This same industry is actively lobbying to keep as many incarceratable (I think I invented a word) offenses on the books. Obama recognized the problem and began the process of shutting down this practice of outsourcing to private industry. Little wonder that the industry strongly backed Trump, who is now actively reversing those policies and keeping us on the path of incarcerating more of our citizens than any other country (by percentage of population), and maintaining extremely high recidivism rates.
School funding cuts are another place where shortsightedness prevails. this is more at the state and local level, but it primarily Republicans arguing for cuts. Arizona is a prime example of the effect. Education funding has not only not grown with the cost of living, it has been slashed by over 30% between 2008 and 2015. Students are now emerging from a system where upwards of 48 students are packed per classroom because of these cuts, and they are completely unprepared to enter college or get decent jobs. Long term, the economy suffers, and our ability to function on the world stage as a scientific and technological leader is compromised.
There are many, many others.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI guess I'm responding to an old post, but this statement is far too broad and sweeping. Some Republicans don't believe in a social safety net. Most of the ones I know don't believe in a social safety net that creates long-term entitlement. It is a view I generally agree with.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI gave you one - the IRS.
Another is the penal system. To save $, the government moved to "outsource" to the private sector. But the private sector has ZERO interest in programs to deal with recidivism or control/reduce jail time, because they get paid for every night they have someone in custody. Since this outsourcing, recidivism has skyrocketed and, with it, or penal system costs. This same industry is actively lobbying to keep as many incarceratable (I think I invented a word) offenses on the books. Obama recognized the problem and began the process of shutting down this practice of outsourcing to private industry. Little wonder that the industry strongly backed Trump, who is now actively reversing those policies and keeping us on the path of incarcerating more of our citizens than any other country (by percentage of population), and maintaining extremely high recidivism rates.
School funding cuts are another place where shortsightedness prevails. this is more at the state and local level, but it primarily Republicans arguing for cuts. Arizona is a prime example of the effect. Education funding has not only not grown with the cost of living, it has been slashed by over 30% between 2008 and 2015. Students are now emerging from a system where upwards of 48 students are packed per classroom because of these cuts, and they are completely unprepared to enter college or get decent jobs. Long term, the economy suffers, and our ability to function on the world stage as a scientific and technological leader is compromised.
There are many, many others.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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