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  • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Trump is an unreliable source.
    Unfortunately.

    Senator Graham confirmed Senator Durbin's account of the meeting,
    'Not disputing it' is not the same as 'confirming it'.

    and even confronted Trump in the meeting concerning his racist degrading remarks.
    Not exactly. Here's a quote from the NYPost - WARNING - "that bad word" included in linked website.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham has finally responded to reports that President Trump called Haiti and African nations “******** countries” — but only acknowledged vaguely that the president made “comments.”

    “Following comments by the President, I said my piece directly to him yesterday. The President and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel,” said Graham, one of a handful of lawmakers present for the Oval Office meeting.


    Let's try to stick to the facts. If you know of an actual cite for your claim, I'd like to see it.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Graham wasn't in the meeting. At least three people who were in the meeting have stated they never heard the President use that language, and the President himself has denied it.
      Senator Graham was in the meeting! He supported Senator Durbin's description and also stated he confronted Trump.
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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      • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
        Senator Graham was in the meeting! He supported Senator Durbin's description and also stated he confronted Trump.
        Ya know, Shuny, repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make it true.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          So, no proof that he "supported" his friend's claim - just that he didn't dispute it, correct? And your little temper tantrum doesn't equate to a citation or proof.
          Read the news!!!!
          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

          go with the flow the river knows . . .

          Frank

          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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          • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
            Read the news!!!!
            Calm yourself, Shuny. How bout providing an actual cite, instead of just repeating the same thing over and over and over again, as if that made it true.


            I repeat...

            Senator Graham confirmed Senator Durbin's account of the meeting,
            'Not disputing it' is not the same as 'confirming it'.

            and even confronted Trump in the meeting concerning his racist degrading remarks.
            Not exactly. Here's a quote from the NYPost - WARNING - "that bad word" included in linked website.

            Sen. Lindsey Graham has finally responded to reports that President Trump called Haiti and African nations “******** countries” — but only acknowledged vaguely that the president made “comments.”

            “Following comments by the President, I said my piece directly to him yesterday. The President and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel,” said Graham, one of a handful of lawmakers present for the Oval Office meeting.


            Let's try to stick to the facts. If you know of an actual cite for your claim, I'd like to see it.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              Unfortunately.
              Yes "unfortunately" he’s an unreliable source and an overt liar and yet you voted for him along with 80% of white Evangelicals. What does that say about you?

              'Not disputing it' is not the same as 'confirming it'.
              It equivalent to accepting it, it’s certainly not denying it.

              Not exactly. Here's a quote from the NYPost - WARNING - "that bad word" included in linked website.

              Sen. Lindsey Graham has finally responded to reports that President Trump called Haiti and African nations “******** countries” — but only acknowledged vaguely that the president made “comments.”

              “Following comments by the President, I said my piece directly to him yesterday. The President and all those attending the meeting know what I said and how I feel,” said Graham, one of a handful of lawmakers present for the Oval Office meeting.
              You worry about “bad words” and yet you voted for a man who talked about grabbing women’s ‘genitals’. Great to have standards CP.

              Here’s another quote from the more reliable NY Times: “Donald Trump’s words and deeds over the course of his life have demonstrated a pattern of expressing racial prejudices that demean people who are black and brown and that play to the racial hostilities of other white people. It is not a stretch to say that Trump is racist. It’s not a stretch to say that he is a white supremacist. It’s not a stretch to say that Trump is a bigot. Those are just facts, supported by the proof of the words that keep coming directly from him.”

              https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/14/o...-shithole.html

              Why is anybody questioning Trumps “bad words”. We know he is perfectly capable of uttering them. He more likely did than didn’t on this occasion,given his history of racism.
              Last edited by Tassman; 01-16-2018, 01:06 AM.
              “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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              • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                Yes "unfortunately" he’s an unreliable source and an overt liar and yet you voted for him along with 80% of white Evangelicals. What does that say about you?
                It says that I believed he was the lesser of two evils.

                It equivalent to accepting it, it’s certainly not denying it.
                Wow, goofy little kid logic!

                You worry about “bad words” and yet you voted for a man who talked about grabbing women’s ‘genitals’. Great to have standards CP.
                I fully understand your inability to grasp the concept of voting 'for' somebody to stop somebody else from becoming POTUS, and your asinine need to cast that in the worst light possible. It's 'you', after all. The rest of your hate speech is duly noted.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  It says that I believed he was the lesser of two evils.
                  Nah! You voted for a morally degenerate liar as POTUS for the same reason 80% of white Evangelicals supported an accused pedophile in Alabama. Namely to get your own way re anti abortion and anti LGBT legislation.

                  Wow, goofy little kid logic!
                  No argument!

                  I fully understand your inability to grasp the concept of voting 'for' somebody to stop somebody else from becoming POTUS,
                  Oh I understand the "concept" of voting for a sexually degenerate, racist, liar in order to get your own way politically. I just think it's immoral. But what would I know. I don't occupy the same high moral ground as do you Evangelicals. <sarcasm>
                  “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    It says that I believed he was the lesser of two evils.



                    Wow, goofy little kid logic!



                    I fully understand your inability to grasp the concept of voting 'for' somebody to stop somebody else from becoming POTUS, and your asinine need to cast that in the worst light possible. It's 'you', after all. The rest of your hate speech is duly noted.
                    The point is that you didn't vote for the lesser of two evils, that's just something you like to tell yourself, you voted for the most evil. If you didn't know that at the time, you should know it by now.

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                    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                      The point is that you didn't vote for the lesser of two evils....
                      Yes, I did - just not by the margin I thought.

                      Meanwhile,
                      Hillary is not POTUS
                      SCOTUS is not Hillary's.

                      I'm good with that.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        But what would I know.
                        EGGzackly!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Yes, I did - just not by the margin I thought.

                          Meanwhile,
                          Hillary is not POTUS
                          SCOTUS is not Hillary's.

                          I'm good with that
                          Well then, you'll know different soon enough, and when you do, you're going to feel pretty stupid.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Yes, I did - just not by the margin I thought.

                            Meanwhile,
                            Hillary is not POTUS
                            SCOTUS is not Hillary's.

                            I'm good with that.
                            We know! Even though it meant selling your soul for a morally degenerate, racist, liar to get it.
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              We know! Even though it meant selling your soul for a morally degenerate, racist, liar to get it.
                              Yup.

                              I think it will also be interesting to see if the Dem POTUS in 2020 will have the guts to say "Republicans blatantly stole the SCOTUS seat, so I'm appointing an additional 2 appointees right now to the court to fix the balance." Though my current read is that Kennedy had already swung to the Dems in his old age, and was already planning to retire under a Dem POTUS and flip his own seat to the Dems anyway, so if he resigns shortly after the election of a Dem POTUS in 2020 it could then be interpreted as a repayment for Gorsuch's illegal seating.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                                We know! Even though it meant selling your soul for a morally degenerate, racist, liar to get it.
                                More Drama Queenery. Do you sneer and slobber and hiss when you spew forth these little crapcakes? And my soul is still safely in God's hands.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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