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    The fact that Stephanopoulos saw a need to bail Obama out speaks volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The fact that Stephanopoulos saw a need to bail Obama out speaks volumes.
    The fact that Stephanopolous cut in before the sentence was finished, misunderstanding what Obama was saying, and was then corrected by Obama says everything.

    But you're not going to see that; you're too committed to the "Obama is Muslim" conspiracy theory. Given the nature of your reading material, MM, it's not really surprising.

    Since this discussion is way past pointless - I'll leave the last word to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    The fact that Stephanopolous cut in before the sentence was finished, misunderstanding what Obama was saying...
    Oh, I don't think he misunderstood him at all. The fact that Obama so effortlessly delivered that phrase says quite a lot, and Stephanopolous saw that Obama wasn't going to correct himself on his own and threw him a much needed lifeline. You keep trying to interpret what Obama might have meant while flatly ignoring what he actually said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Oh, I don't think he misunderstood him at all. The fact that Obama so effortlessly delivered that phrase says quite a lot, and Stephanopolous saw that Obama wasn't going to correct himself on his own and threw him a much needed lifeline. You keep trying to interpret what Obama might have meant while flatly ignoring what he actually said.
    You're a sick man MM. When you can't even see, or admit to yourself, what is absolutely obvious to everyone else, then yo have a serious problem.

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    Obama: Youíre absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith and youíre absolutely right that that has not Ö
    Stephanopoulos (interrupting): Your Christian faith.
    Obama: My Christian faith. Well, what Iím saying Ö
    Stephanopoulos (interrupting): Connections, right.
    Obama (continuing) is that he hasnít suggested that Iím a Muslim, and I think that his campaign upper echelons have not either.

    v.

    Obama: Youíre absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith and youíre absolutely right that that has not Ö is that he hasnít suggested that Iím a Muslim, and I think that his campaign upper echelons have not either.

    Personally, I think the better line is that he's an atheist, like his dad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Oh, I don't think he misunderstood him at all. The fact that Obama so effortlessly delivered that phrase says quite a lot, and Stephanopolous saw that Obama wasn't going to correct himself on his own and threw him a much needed lifeline. You keep trying to interpret what Obama might have meant while flatly ignoring what he actually said.
    Okay, assuming Obama meant "Christian faith" instead of "Muslim faith", what would it mean for Obama to say, "Youíre absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Christian faith"? How does that make sense in the context where Stephanopolous is claiming that McCain never attacked Obama as a Muslim, and Obama is ceding that point? No one ever suggested that McCain, or any Republican, was attacking Obama's Christian faith. Why would they?

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