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Deeper Waters is founded on the belief that the Christian community has long been in the shallow end of Christianity while there are treasures of the deep waiting to be discovered. Too many in the shallow end are not prepared when they go out beyond those waters and are quickly devoured by sharks. We wish to aid Christians to equip them to navigate the deeper waters of the ocean of truth and come up with treasure in the end.
We also wish to give special aid to those often neglected, that is, the disabled community. This is especially so since our founders are both on the autism spectrum and have a special desire to reach those on that spectrum. While they are a special emphasis, we seek to help others with any disability realize that God can use them and that they are as the Psalmist says, fearfully and wonderfully made.
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostYour quality of life won't be as good and you will likely be bored out of your skull. And you will be shamed for every time you have acted like a jerk to God and other people.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostHow do you know, have you been there? How will I be shamed? Actually this hell that you speak of sounds like a hell of a lot more fun than sitting around worshipping in obedience to what I perceive to be naught else but a slavemaster. Talk about boring! But tell me, where does it say that Hell is simply eternal life without a master? Is there somewhere we can go to sign up?If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by Christianbookworm View PostOh dear. Do you really think it is better to not live under a caring shepherd? To not be loved and given a task to preform for enrichment purposes? Even a working breed dog will get bored to insanity if it does not have a job to do. God does not need our help. We have to have something important to do. Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostAgain, you're redifining justice. It's about fairness, not about having the power to do as one pleases. You can argue that Justice doesn't apply to god if you want, but then you can't at the same time define him as being just. What you're arguing is that god has the right to be unfair, that he has the right to be unjust, which of course would be true if he were an unjust god, but having the right to be unjust, doesn't make his actions just.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostHaving the right to be unjust is an oxymoron. If you have the right to something then exercising that right can by definition not be unjust."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostThere is nothing that God has the right to do that is wrong.
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God is THE moral standard. And He can't/won't be out of character. If it looks like He is, then we are misinterpreting His actions big time. And that's sad. Because He really would know what the best course of action to take is. Even if it is unpleasant in the short term. A young child being given a vaccine may think the adults are being cruel, but the adults are really trying to keep the child from getting a potentially serious or fatal illness.If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI think you mean to say that there is nothing that god has the right to do that is unjust. If true, then he doesn't have the right to be unjust. You're playing a word game, and it isn't going to work!
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostI agree, God doesn't have the right to be unjust. It's simply a matter of fact that whatever God decides to do it is by definition just. God has the authority to do things that we are not allowed/authorized to do without it being unjust.
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