Trump cancelled a Diplomatic trip to London and made relationships with the British Commonwealth worse with ignorance and fake news that Obama was responsible for moving the embassy, and selling the old embassy too cheap. The reality is the decisions were all made by Bush, and the USA did not own the land.
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Last edited by shunyadragon; 01-12-2018, 04:38 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.Tags: None
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If things progress as they have in his first year of his presidency Donald Trump will not be welcome anywhere except, of course, at his golf courses.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostIf things progress as they have in his first year of his presidency Donald Trump will not be welcome anywhere except, of course, at his golf courses.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Relationships between the Trump White House and London have never been particularly good, but this isn't surprising when you consider that London has a Muslim mayor who is quietly attempting to implement Sharia law throughout the city. His being no fan of Trump is actually a good thing.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostRelationships between the Trump White House and London have never been particularly good, but this isn't surprising when you consider that London has a Muslim mayor who is quietly attempting to implement Sharia law throughout the city. His being no fan of Trump is actually a good thing.
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You guys just can't resist the genetic fallacy, can you? At least you're consistent, for whatever it's worth.
Now how about actually attempting to refute the facts, if you can, instead of attacking the source.Last edited by Mountain Man; 01-13-2018, 12:58 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
You guys just can't resist the genetic fallacy, can you? At least you're consistent, for whatever it's worth.
Now how about actually attempting to refute the facts, if you can, instead of attacking the source."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostDid you yourself refute what the opening post pointed to? I must have failed to see it. Or are you being inconsistent, for whatever it's worth?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostWhat is there to refute? Bush made the decision, but Obama actually made the move. At worst you could say Bush is also responsible (although the final decision rested with Obama, who could've overturned it). It's just CNN crybaby nitpicking.
Besides Donald Trump's objection to the price the property sold for did not consider the facts in that the USA did not own the property of the old embassy.Last edited by shunyadragon; 01-13-2018, 01:25 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
You guys just can't resist the genetic fallacy, can you? At least you're consistent, for whatever it's worth.
Now how about actually attempting to refute the facts, if you can, instead of attacking the source.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostNo this is a dishonest representation of the facts of the history of the move. It was already determined that the previous location was not secure and safe. The change was already in the works when Obama took office. What would be the reason to change Bush's decision in full agreement with the State Department and the intelligence community?
It's all excuse making. "Obama just finished what Bush started" as if Bush is suddenly a progressive hero and not a guy you talked about in the same way you talk about Trump when he was president.
Besides Donald Trump's objection to the price the property sold for did not consider the facts in that the USA did not own the property of the old embassy."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostNo, it's an exact representation of the facts of the history. If you want to see a dishonest representation read your OP where you don't mention Obama's role in this at all and just try to make it look like Bush made the sale and Obama was innocent and had no say in it.
It's all excuse making. "Obama just finished what Bush started" as if Bush is suddenly a progressive hero and not a guy you talked about in the same way you talk about Trump when he was president.
They did not own the land, but they did own the actual building, which is what they sold. This is another red herring.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYou missed the important issue here. The State Department and the Intelligence agencies had already determined that the old embassy was unsafe. Again . . . You have failed to give a reason why Obama would reverse a decision under these circumstances.
Without owning the land the value of the building is only bricks and mortor. Please provided a reference as why Trump believes the price was too low."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostI don't have to idiot, I couldn't care less. That's just you moving the goal posts though, the point of the OP was to claim it wasn't Obama who made the decision, to fool people into thinking Trump blamed the wrong person.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostNo, it's an exact representation of the facts of the history. If you want to see a dishonest representation read your OP where you don't mention Obama's role in this at all and just try to make it look like Bush made the sale and Obama was innocent and had no say in it.
It's all excuse making. "Obama just finished what Bush started" as if Bush is suddenly a progressive hero and not a guy you talked about in the same way you talk about Trump when he was president.
They did not own the land, but they did own the actual building, which is what they sold. This is another red herring.
Of course they're just continuing the Obama legacy of blaming Bush for everything Obama did wrong.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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