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  • #16
    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
    His big "shtick" is portraying himself as a pimp.
    I've heard his name mentioned, but, apparently, he and I don't run in the same circles.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
      Both sides need to do a better job repudiating terrible candidates on their own side from the outset. (I noticed that the conservatives on this site did not repudiate the over-the-top-lewd Kid Rock when he was floating a candidacy.)
      Hmm..

      Overly-crass and crude rock star or a convicted traitor sentenced to 35 years who even the Canuckistanis won't allow into their country

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #18
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Hmm..

        Overly-crass and crude rock star or a convicted traitor sentenced to 35 years who even the Canuckistanis won't allow into their country
        Where did I directly equate the two?

        And conservatives do deserve a higher standard because they're the ones who claim traditional values.
        "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
          Chelsea Manning has filed to run for the US Senate from Maryland. The mind boggles.
          What a great country - where a traitor who was a male can run for Congress as a female!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            Probably the progressive civil war is much more a sign of the progressive civil war than Manning is.

            Also there seem to be just a tad more primary candidates this year than usual!



            Anyone and everyone seems to be running in the primaries this year.
            Civil War: DNC. Good!!!!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
              Where did I directly equate the two?

              And conservatives do deserve a higher standard because they're the ones who claim traditional values.
              Non-traditional values has what to do with bad candidates? Seriously, I don't get the leap here.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                Non-traditional values has what to do with bad candidates? Seriously, I don't get the leap here.
                He's saying the family values party should be running candidates who exemplify good family values, the law and order party shouldn't be running convicted felons etc, because the values the party alleges it stands for should be reflected in the candidates. Whereas the democratic party who doesn't stand for those things need not require its candidates to conform to a high standard on those issues because it itself doesn't push for a high standard on those issues.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  He's saying the family values party should be running candidates who exemplify good family values, the law and order party shouldn't be running convicted felons etc, because the values the party alleges it stands for should be reflected in the candidates. Whereas the democratic party who doesn't stand for those things need not require its candidates to conform to a high standard on those issues because it itself doesn't push for a high standard on those issues.
                  So they should run bad candidates? I get what he was saying - the leap makes no sense, however. A candidate's quality is more than just his/her ethical character. Mother Theresa would have been a terrible candidate - although a wonderful human being. Granted, a person's character should be of primary concern when vetting candidates - but what does it matter if the candidate is so bad in political stance that they can't be elected. I'm dubious that Kid Rock's mom would have voted for him.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                    So they should run bad candidates?
                    What makes a candidate 'bad' differs according to the parties' different values. For example whether a candidate has committed adultery, or has had an abortion would be quite different between the two parties in terms of their relevance.

                    With respect to the OP, Chelsea Manning would be likely non-viable as a Republican candidate both due to being transgender and a whistle-blower on war-crimes. Whereas those same things mean she is perfectly viable as a Democratic candidate.

                    Mother Theresa would have been a terrible candidate - although a wonderful human being.
                    Well Christopher Hitchens and others would disagree with the wonderful human being part.

                    but what does it matter if the candidate is so bad in political stance that they can't be elected.
                    Political policies are what is most important to me when I vote (combined with lack of corruptness and apparent sincereness and authenticity to convince me they will actually try to enact those policies and aren't just lying about policies to get votes). That's why I see Oprah as a non-starter because "I'm a billionaire and a kind person" doesn't make you relevant for the presidency unless you can demonstrate at least a decade of deep thought and consideration and caring about political policies.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                      Granted, a person's character should be of primary concern when vetting candidates - but what does it matter if the candidate is so bad in political stance that they can't be elected. I'm dubious that Kid Rock's mom would have voted for him.
                      After Trump's election, any possible election result is on the table. (And pollsters and political operatives alike were taking Kid Rock's potential candidacy seriously.)
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        Whereas those same things mean she is perfectly viable as a Democratic candidate.
                        If Dems want mentally ill guy, okay then!!!
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
                          If Dems want mentally ill guy, okay then!!!
                          No, Dems don't want Trump.

                          But if you're derogatorily referring to transgenderism, then I'll note that two months ago this transgender candidate won.
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            No, Dems don't want Trump.
                            Sad, because he came over to Republican side, won, is still winning!

                            But if you're derogatorily referring to transgenderism, then I'll note that two months ago this transgender candidate won.
                            Okay, so Manning won't get 'first transsexual candidate winner' trophy. What gives then??
                            Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                              Given the current political climate, he has a shot.
                              Isn't there some law against a convicted felon running for office?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                                After Trump's election, any possible election result is on the table.
                                There is actually logic to why Trump won. Some, of course, don't want to see!!
                                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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