Chelsea Manning For Senate

[rogue06]

Yeah! And if people really cared about GLXBKSPBU folk, they would try to help them understand this is not a good thing, instead of enabling them.

And as we saw with Jenner, cheering them on.

[Starlight]

Yeah! And if people really cared about GLXBKSPBU folk, they would try to help them understand this is not a good thing, instead of enabling them.

Neither the sum of your posting in this forum, nor this particular post in which you flippantly mock the LGBT+ acronym in passing, makes me think you care at all about these people. When pushed on it, you hide behind the idea that you totally love the sinner and you just hate the sin, but in practice I see zero evidence of the love part, only of the hatred.

[rogue06]

That Manning is despised has little to nothing to do with his decision to become transgender

[Charles]

That Manning is despised has little to nothing to do with his decision to become transgender

Is this a comment on Starlight's post above?

[Starlight]

That Manning is despised has little to nothing to do with his decision to become transgender

I regard whistle-blowers of government wrongdoing and corruption as heroes.

It amuses me that those who are so suspicious on this forum of 'big government' in general, seem to be the quickest to believe that the government can do no wrong when it decides to torture people, do war crimes, spy on everyone etc, and that in those cases it is wrong to question the government.

[Tassman]

That Manning is despised has little to nothing to do with his decision to become transgender

That Manning is despised by some and is transgender has nothing to do with her being an activist, a whistleblower and former United States Army soldier and intelligence analyst . She acted according to her conscious and paid the price with several years jail time. So what's the problem exactly?

[Cow Poke]

That is generally what transgender people say,

Of course it is!

yes (and it's how I read Chelsea Manning's tweet). I find the unwillingness among conservatives to actually listen to what transgender people say to be somewhat curious, and the enthusiasm with which conservatives declare themselves sudden expert in psychology and at psychoanalyzing others, fascinating.

I find it incredibly tragic that people like you encourage them to do incredibly damaging things.

[Cow Poke]

Neither the sum of your posting in this forum, nor this particular post in which you flippantly mock the LGBT+ acronym in passing, makes me think you care at all about these people. When pushed on it, you hide behind the idea that you totally love the sinner and you just hate the sin, but in practice I see zero evidence of the love part, only of the hatred.

Because in your screwed up world, it's impossible to mock an acronym which seems to grow with each year and still love the people who get sucked into that destructive lifestyle?

[Sparko]

That is generally what transgender people say, yes (and it's how I read Chelsea Manning's tweet). I find the unwillingness among conservatives to actually listen to what transgender people say to be somewhat curious, and the enthusiasm with which conservatives declare themselves sudden expert in psychology and at psychoanalyzing others, fascinating.

How many LGBT people does it take to say "I'm feeling suicidal because people are being nasty to me" before it sinks in to people like you that, yes, maybe the nastiness does play a major role?

Or it might be that such people already have some serious psychological problems in the first place that they tried to solve by changing their bodies and then found out that it didn't help. People who are well adjusted don't go around having surgery to try to "fix" their gender.

The lie that liberals tell is that it is perfectly normal to want to change genders, or be homosexual or bisexual. It's not.

[Tassman]

Or it might be that such people already have some serious psychological problems in the first place that they tried to solve by changing their bodies and then found out that it didn't help. People who are well adjusted don't go around having surgery to try to "fix" their gender.

Not necessarily "psychological problems" but "imaging studies and other research suggest that there is a biological basis for transgender identity".

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...sgender-brain/

The lie that liberals tell is that it is perfectly normal to want to change genders, or be homosexual or bisexual. It's not.

See above re gender change. As for homosexual or bisexual people, of course it's normal for a small percentage of the population. Who are you to say otherwise.

[Starlight]

The lie that Sparko tells is that it is perfectly normal to want to be a pirate. It's not.

Fixed it for you.

[One Bad Pig]

Fixed it for you.

That you think those are in some way equivalent speaks volumes.

[Sparko]

Not necessarily "psychological problems" but "imaging studies and other research suggest that there is a biological basis for transgender identity".

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...sgender-brain/



See above re gender change. As for homosexual or bisexual people, of course it's normal for a small percentage of the population. Who are you to say otherwise.

The stats speak for themselves. The suicide rates for homosexuals and transgenders are still through the roof despite them now being "mainstream" acceptable behaviors. Every TV show has gay and transgender characters now. Gay marriage is legal. Anyone even speaking out against it is pretty much a pariah nowadays. Just look how you guys react to us saying it is a sin. So why hasn't the suicide rates dropped?

[Sparko]

Fixed it for you.

It's a goof I do on tweb. I don't actually think I am a pirate.

I am sure OBP doesn't think he is a pig either. I could be wrong about that though.

[Psychic Missile]

The stats speak for themselves. The suicide rates for homosexuals and transgenders are still through the roof despite them now being "mainstream" acceptable behaviors. Every TV show has gay and transgender characters now. Gay marriage is legal. Anyone even speaking out against it is pretty much a pariah nowadays. Just look how you guys react to us saying it is a sin. So why hasn't the suicide rates dropped?

Is there data that shows that suicides have not dropped over time?