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  • Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
    Well this is a small step up from Jimmy's, "Ah, Trump has heart disease no matter what you idiots want to tell yourself. " A small one, but a step. Still sees himself as a better doctor than the real doctor, Jackson.
    Jed, Jed, Jed, read it again, carefully this time. You'll find that Tass is agreeing with me that Trump has heart disease. People with coronary artery disease have heart disease and when you have calcium buildup in the arteries, then you have heart disease, which, just as in the case with Trump, is treated with drugs. No one is saying that his physical condition is an obstacle to his ability to perform as president, but, he is at substantial risk for a heart attack, so what are you arguing about.
    Last edited by JimL; 01-20-2018, 11:25 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Dr. Ronny Jackson: "[President Trump] does not have heart disease."

      What do you know that a qualified and respected doctor who examined Trump personally doesn't know, Jimmy? What credentials do you boast that give you the authority to second guess his medical opinion?
      The numbers MM, the numbers. Apparently Dr. Jackson is painting a rosy scenario for some reason, but cardiologists reading the numbers aren't fooled

      http://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/us...olesterol.html

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      • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
        The numbers MM, the numbers. Apparently Dr. Jackson is painting a rosy scenario for some reason, but cardiologists reading the numbers aren't fooled

        http://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/us...olesterol.html
        So people who haven't examined Trump personally are saying that the respected and qualified White House physician who has served under three presidents got it wrong.

        Yeah, OK.
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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          So people who haven't examined Trump personally are saying that the respected and qualified White House physician who has served under three presidents got it wrong.

          Yeah, OK.
          No, I assume Dr. Jackson is being a tad misleading in deference to the President or whatever, but you can't hide the numbers and they tell a different story as the cardiologists cited have said. Trump has coronary artery disease, plaque buildup which could clot and cause a heart attack, he has high cholesterol even though having been taking Crestor in an attempt to lower it. The good doctor can't have it both ways, they're his numbers.

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          • Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
            No, I assume Dr. Jackson is being a tad misleading in deference to the President or whatever, but you can't hide the numbers and they tell a different story as the cardiologists cited have said. Trump has coronary artery disease, plaque buildup which could clot and cause a heart attack, he has high cholesterol even though having been taking Crestor in an attempt to lower it. The good doctor can't have it both ways, they're his numbers.
            Like I said, people who haven't examined Trump personally are saying that the respected and qualified White House physician who has served under three presidents got it wrong.

            Yeah, O.K.

            What reason is there to think Dr. Jackson has any motive to mislead or misunderstand his own results? You're right, they are his numbers, and I assume, therefore, he is more qualified to assess them than someone playing armchair physician who hasn't even so much as taken the President's temperature. Sorry, but when Dr. Jackson says unequivocally that Trump does not have heart disease, I see no reason to doubt him. I'll leave that to liberal morons like you.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              What reason is there to think Dr. Jackson has any motive to mislead or misunderstand his own results?
              (a) A sense of obligation to the patient, which most doctors feel; (b) He's in the chain of command, so Trump, his superior, is allowed to order him to lie; (c) He might be a Trump-supporter (I have no idea) whom, like yourself, is willing to believe that up is down and be creative with the truth.
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              • Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                (a) A sense of obligation to the patient, which most doctors feel; (b) He's in the chain of command, so Trump, his superior, is allowed to order him to lie; (c) He might be a Trump-supporter (I have no idea) whom, like yourself, is willing to believe that up is down and be creative with the truth.
                In hindsight, I should asked what rational reason is there to think Dr. Jackson has any motive to mislead or misunderstand his own results.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                  Clacium buildup in the coronary artereis and high cholesterol levels are risk factors for a heart attack, which is why it is called heart disease. Stop playing doctor and look it up.
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                  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    (a) A sense of obligation to the patient, which most doctors feel; (b) He's in the chain of command, so Trump, his superior, is allowed to order him to lie; (c) He might be a Trump-supporter (I have no idea) whom, like yourself, is willing to believe that up is down and be creative with the truth.
                    You forgot d) The Russians and e) Aliens.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      You forgot d) The Russians and e) Aliens.
                      Those make as much sense as the reasons Dimbulb listed.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Those make as much sense as the reasons Dimbulb listed.
                        Maybe Russian aliens?
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                          (a) A sense of obligation to the patient, which most doctors feel; (b) He's in the chain of command, so Trump, his superior, is allowed to order him to lie; (c) He might be a Trump-supporter (I have no idea) whom, like yourself, is willing to believe that up is down and be creative with the truth.
                          If we apply this reasoning consistently then we would have to conclude that all of Obama's health reports were unrealistically optimistic.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            (a) A sense of obligation to the patient, which most doctors feel; (b) He's in the chain of command, so Trump, his superior, is allowed to order him to lie; (c) He might be a Trump-supporter (I have no idea) whom, like yourself, is willing to believe that up is down and be creative with the truth.
                            From early in the thread....

                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Yeah, expect disparagement of the Rear Admiral who examined him - he's a Republican schill... in fact, didn't you notice a bit of a Russian accent?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by JimL View Post
                              Clacium buildup in the coronary artereis and high cholesterol levels are risk factors for a heart attack, which is why it is called heart disease. Stop playing doctor and look it up.
                              I know how this works because my family has a history of high cholesterol and so I keep an eye on it. Risk factor isn’t heart disease. Do you even know the difference between heart disease and a risk factor?
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                              • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                                I know how this works because my family has a history of high cholesterol and so I keep an eye on it. Risk factor isn’t heart disease. Do you even know the difference between heart disease and a risk factor?
                                If it's somebody he likes, it's simply a risk factor - if it's somebody he hates, it's heart disease.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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