Trump's Health Exam - Bad News!

[rogue06]

The APsaA which is an affiliate of the APA, disagrees with the Goldwater rule. So there!

They consider it a "free speech" issue but nevertheless they still appear to discourage their membership from doing so saying in their "Position Statement Regarding Psychoanalysts’ Providing Commentary on Public Figures," that

"the American Psychoanalytic Association expects psychoanalysts to exercise extreme caution when making statements to the media about public figures. Respect for the limits of psychoanalytic inference about individuals one does not know and has not interviewed indepth is essential."

They further state that

"In the case of commentary on public figures, we urge all psychoanalysts to take careful precautions so that their comments avoid the appearance of "wild analysis", do not overstep the bounds of psychoanalytic knowledge and undermine the basis for psychoanalytic inference, and of course stay very clearly away from the edge of libel and defamation of character."

Something that this petition clearly violates.

[JimL]

They consider it a "free speech" issue but nevertheless they still appear to discourage their membership from doing so saying in their "Position Statement Regarding Psychoanalysts’ Providing Commentary on Public Figures," that

"the American Psychoanalytic Association expects psychoanalysts to exercise extreme caution when making statements to the media about public figures. Respect for the limits of psychoanalytic inference about individuals one does not know and has not interviewed indepth is essential."

They further state that

"In the case of commentary on public figures, we urge all psychoanalysts to take careful precautions so that their comments avoid the appearance of "wild analysis", do not overstep the bounds of psychoanalytic knowledge and undermine the basis for psychoanalytic inference, and of course stay very clearly away from the edge of libel and defamation of character."

Something that this petition clearly violates.

Apparently the membership disagrees with the organizational statement. Trumps behavior is on display for all to see and psychaitrists are trained in the art of observing and diagnosing that behavior.

[Cow Poke]

Apparently the membership disagrees with the organizational statement. Trumps behavior is on display for all to see and psychaitrists are trained in the art of observing and diagnosing that behavior.

Yet, when Hillary was exhibiting bizarre behavior, only her own doctor was qualified to diagnose her. You guys are such freakin hypocrites.

[Mountain Man]

Apparently the membership disagrees with the organizational statement. Trumps behavior is on display for all to see and psychaitrists are trained in the art of observing and diagnosing that behavior.

And yet the only doctor who has personally examined the President says that he is physically and mentally fit.

I'll take his word over that of any number of unethical physicians who wish to declare otherwise without having conducted a personal examination of the President.

[Leonhard]

You guys are such freakin hypocrites.

I would like to point out that I've never accused Trump of being insane, or unhealthy, before you go about throwing around hypocrisy charges.

[Cow Poke]

I would like to point out that I've never accused Trump of being insane, or unhealthy, before you go about throwing around hypocrisy charges.

Then this would obviously not apply to you. If the shoe fits, and all that...

[RumTumTugger]

I would like to point out that I've never accused Trump of being insane, or unhealthy, before you go about throwing around hypocrisy charges.

Leonhard CP was quoting JimL, last I checked you aren't JimL.

[JimL]

Yet, when Hillary was exhibiting bizarre behavior, only her own doctor was qualified to diagnose her.

Bizarre behavior, what bizarre behavior was Hillary exhibiting? You mean being physically ill which everyone on the right, including you, opined upon?

You guys are such freakin hypocrites.

Not very self aware are you CP.

[JimL]

And yet the only doctor who has personally examined the President says that he is physically and mentally fit.

I'll take his word over that of any number of unethical physicians who wish to declare otherwise without having conducted a personal examination of the President.

That was a medical doctor MM, not a psychiatrist, and all that he tested Trump for were signs of senility not the nature of his psyche.

[Tassman]

No competent doctor with any integrity would attempt to diagnose someone without performing a personal examination. The one doctor who has personally examined Trump says that he is mentally and physically fit.

Not so. A ‘personality disorder’ (of the narcissistic type), which is what many professionals believe to be Trump’s problem, is generally assessed according to behavioural patterns in terms of functioning and language over a period of time. It doesn’t necessarily reveal itself in a face-to-face assessment as you're claiming to be necessary...in your typical knee-jerk defence of all things Trump.

[NorrinRadd]

Not so. A ‘personality disorder’ (of the narcissistic type), which is what many professionals believe to be Trump’s problem, is generally assessed according to behavioural patterns in terms of functioning and language over a period of time. It doesn’t necessarily reveal itself in a face-to-face assessment as you're claiming to be necessary...in your typical knee-jerk defence of all things Trump.

Ok, but based on his comments in the press conference, the doctor also took into account his observations of Trump in their frequent interactions over the past months, not just that one-time assessment.

[Mountain Man]

Not so. A ‘personality disorder’ (of the narcissistic type), which is what many professionals believe to be Trump’s problem, is generally assessed according to behavioural patterns in terms of functioning and language over a period of time. It doesn’t necessarily reveal itself in a face-to-face assessment as you're claiming to be necessary...in your typical knee-jerk defence of all things Trump.

And yet, medical guidelines explicitly say that it is irresponsible and unethical to diagnose someone without having performed a personal examination.

[Mountain Man]

That was a medical doctor MM, not a psychiatrist, and all that he tested Trump for were signs of senility not the nature of his psyche.

You still can't get away from the fact that the only doctor to have examined the President personally has declared him physically and mentally fit. You have to depend on unethical hacks in the mainstream media to promote your agenda, first with false claims of heart disease, and now this phony psychological evaluation.

Next time you have a medical complaint, I expect you to want the doctor to diagnose you over the phone since you seem to think that a long-distance diagnoses is credible.

[Mountain Man]

Oh, and we can't forget the fake news about dementia.

[JimL]

You still can't get away from the fact that the only doctor to have examined the President personally has declared him physically and mentally fit. You have to depend on unethical hacks in the mainstream media to promote your agenda, first with false claims of heart disease, and now this phony psychological evaluation.

Next time you have a medical complaint, I expect you to want the doctor to diagnose you over the phone since you seem to think that a long-distance diagnoses is credible.

I guess I'll have to repeat myself. That was a medical Doctor MM, not a psychiatrist, and all that he tested Trump for were signs of senility, not the nature of his psyche. And that Trump has heart disease is not a false claim, significant plaque buildup in the coronary arteries is considered heart disease.