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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Well, in order for Trump to undermine democratic institutions and become the autocrat he aspires to be, he's going to need the help of the republican party. That's what you're witnessing right now. Hope you're enjoying it.
    Jim buddy, really, take off the tin foil hat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Yes, we understand, you couldn't care less about democracy so long as Hillary is not POTUS and your Dictator promises you a right wing Justice.
    Democracy is why Hillary is not POTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Democracy is why Hillary is not POTUS.
    Particularly our form of 'representative republic' democracy, which awards the position to the person who garners the most electoral college votes, not the popular vote. And, as we have pointed out numerous times, both sides knew the rules and were shooting for the most EC votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Jim buddy, really, take off the tin foil hat...
    seer my friend, snap out of the hypnotic state. Congress passed by a 98-2 margin, a bill sanctioning Russia for election interference. Trump just nixed it. He has been trying, with the help of some republicans in congress to stall and end the investigation into his campaign right from the get go and has threatened Sessions for recusing himself, fired Comey, ordered the firing of Mueller and has gone out of his way to malign the FBI, the CIA, the DOJ not to mention the 4th estate, the News media. Why? There is only one logical reason, he is guilty as sin, he knows it, and he knows Mueller will find it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    It was first reported that McCabe had stepped down. Later it was revealed that he had been fired by the FBI. There must be something pretty damning in the memo for the FBI to take that sort of action.
    And soon after Director Wray personally saw the contents of the memo.
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    I do favor also letting the Dems release their "minority report," so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    I do favor also letting the Dems release their "minority report," so to speak.
    Otherwise, you can't help but believe there's something worth hiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Well it seems like Devin Nunes has gone all-in on trying to obstruct the Mueller investigation, so has written this 'memo' that's full of half-baked things designed to side-track the gullible down a half-dozen conspiracy theory paths and thus provide as much cover for Trump as possible.
    For the sake of accuracy, the memo has been reviewed by Director Wray (over the weekend, in an usual move), and today by two FBI specialists more familiar with the details it involves (one from the counter-intel division, the other a lawyer), and neither identified any inaccuracies. Of course that still leaves room for carping about how "complete" or "balanced" it is.

    The Republican base will love it because they'll get a half-dozen new conspiracy theories to naively buy into. The time the media will have to spend debunking it will take away from the time they can spend paying attention to things like Trump firing FBI deputy-director Andrew McCabe today, and (soon likely) firing deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, as part of the Trump administration clumsily working toward their ongoing goal of sinking the Mueller investigation before it hits.
    Just for laffs -- In the crazy case that the memo turns out to credibly show that the entire basis for the Mueller probe was info gleaned by *improper* use of FISA, why should not the entire case be dropped as "fruit of the poisoned tree"?
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    Hmmm...

    Source: FOX News

    Two senior FBI officials have now reviewed a controversial Republican staff memo alleging abuses of government surveillance programs during the 2016 presidential campaign, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News – adding that the officials “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.”

    The two officials – one from the bureau’s counterintelligence division and the other from the legal division – followed up after an initial review of the memo during a rare Sunday trip to Capitol Hill by FBI Director Christopher Wray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    Well it seems like Devin Nunes has gone all-in on trying to obstruct the Mueller investigation, so has written this 'memo' that's full of half-baked things designed to side-track the gullible down a half-dozen conspiracy theory paths and thus provide as much cover for Trump as possible.
    So, you've read the memo then to be able to determine what is in it?

    This is like Chuck Schumer foaming at the mouth referring to it as "slanderous" and full of "wild speculation." Since Chuckie is a Senator and the memo (which only a few have seen[1]) is coming from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, it is extremely unlikely that he has seen it but like you he just "knows" it's full of lies




    1. The very reason that the DOJ and FBI were strenuously objecting to it being released

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