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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Missile View Post
    It would make me feel better if you didn't revert to the debate tactics of a 5 year old when you come across a dissenting opinion.
    Now THAT's an intelligent post!!

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Missile View Post
    Nothing you quoted is inconsistent with a God who introduced himself as a man to allow for religious proliferation among a patriarchal people, which is the only rational purpose for an ageless, formless, all-powerful entity to have a gender preference.
    You are arguing from silence and conjecture.

    What we know is that
    God introduced himself as a man,
    appeared in the OT at various times in theophanies as a man,
    said he wanted to be called Father,
    incarnated as a male Jesus,
    who the Father called his Son,
    and the Son called him the Father.

    So all evidence points to God wanting to be seen as male.

  3. Amen Cerebrum123, Jedidiah amen'd this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Missile View Post
    It would make me feel better if you didn't revert to the debate tactics of a 5 year old when you come across a dissenting opinion.
    If you didn't come up with dumb 5 year old nonsense that was actually worth debating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    You are arguing from silence and conjecture.

    What we know is that
    God introduced himself as a man,
    appeared in the OT at various times in theophanies as a man,
    said he wanted to be called Father,
    incarnated as a male Jesus,
    who the Father called his Son,
    and the Son called him the Father.

    So all evidence points to God wanting to be seen as male.
    I'm arguing from what makes sense. Of course God wanted to be seen as male. To what aims would a god continue to desire to be identified as a male long after its overt involvement with human affairs? That seems like a pretty petty concern for a being that is supposed to be all-powerful. Do you think that God would rather people not be saved over something that matters so little?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic Missile View Post
    I'm arguing from what makes sense. Of course God wanted to be seen as male. To what aims would a god continue to desire to be identified as a male long after its overt involvement with human affairs? That seems like a pretty petty concern for a being that is supposed to be all-powerful. Do you think that God would rather people not be saved over something that matters so little?
    Also Israel being a Patriarchal society is BECAUSE of God. He set it up that way.

    You are trying to rationalize your view with no evidence. God doesn't change his nature. If he wanted to be seen as male 2000 years ago he does today too. God wants us to worship him on his terms, not ours. We don't get to just make up things that are convenient or we think are nice about God because that is the current view of society. Throughout the bible God tells us to not conform to the world, to not be caught up in what the world thinks is right and wrong, that we are ambassadors of God's kingdom and that we are to be holy and that we do not belong to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Also Israel being a Patriarchal society is BECAUSE of God. He set it up that way.

    You are trying to rationalize your view with no evidence. God doesn't change his nature. If he wanted to be seen as male 2000 years ago he does today too. God wants us to worship him on his terms, not ours. We don't get to just make up things that are convenient or we think are nice about God because that is the current view of society. Throughout the bible God tells us to not conform to the world, to not be caught up in what the world thinks is right and wrong, that we are ambassadors of God's kingdom and that we are to be holy and that we do not belong to the world.
    Exactly, god is obviously an old, cantankerous, vengeful, white bearded, caucasion, alpha male. I've seen the portraits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Exactly, god is obviously an old, cantankerous, vengeful, white bearded, caucasion, alpha male. I've seen the portraits.
    Good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    As someone who deals with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder on a daily basis, I really hate what the word "triggered" has come to mean...
    I am Punkinhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimL View Post
    Exactly, god is obviously an old, cantankerous, vengeful, white bearded, caucasion, alpha male. I've seen the portraits.
    Does this even happen when you're on your meds?

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    You are arguing from silence and conjecture.

    What we know is that
    God introduced himself as a man,
    appeared in the OT at various times in theophanies as a man,
    said he wanted to be called Father,
    incarnated as a male Jesus,
    who the Father called his Son,
    and the Son called him the Father.

    So all evidence points to God wanting to be seen as male.
    The concept of a tribal deity evolved at a time when patriarchal communities were the norm, men were the supreme authority and women were the followers. So, of course God would be male.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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