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  • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    I'm going to stay FAR away from that here... but I'll read the links...


    I would add that it's also pretty easy to see how fear leads to a lot of conservative political positions, e.g. criminals are scary because they might hurt me, therefore we need to be tough on crime and put dangerous criminals in prison for as long as possible, and I need a gun for self defense; other nations are scary because they might invade us, therefore our military being 10x what theirs is and us having 900+ military bases around the world isn't enough, we need to spend even more on defense; immigrants coming in might commit crimes and that's scary so we need to vet them more carefully and have less immigrants; I'm afraid that incoming immigrants might take my job; I'm afraid that my religious liberties might be taken away therefore we need more religious liberty laws; I'm afraid that white people are gradually losing power in this country; etc.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post


      I would add that it's also pretty easy to see how fear leads to a lot of conservative political positions, e.g. criminals are scary because they might hurt me, therefore we need to be tough on crime and put dangerous criminals in prison for as long as possible, and I need a gun for self defense; other nations are scary because they might invade us, therefore our military being 10x what theirs is and us having 900+ military bases around the world isn't enough, we need to spend even more on defense; immigrants coming in might commit crimes and that's scary so we need to vet them more carefully and have less immigrants; I'm afraid that incoming immigrants might take my job; I'm afraid that my religious liberties might be taken away therefore we need more religious liberty laws; I'm afraid that white people are gradually losing power in this country; etc.
      Essentially - the terms "conservative" and "liberal" describe this phenomenon. A conservative looks to keep change to a minimum, and wants "the old days" and "the old values." A liberal is more likely to say, "new idea? let's try that!" In an ideal world, liberals and conservatives have a relationship much like husband and wife. I am fond of saying that it is a husband's job to make sure the wife doesn't smother the children (i.e., those snacks are not healthy - eat this carrot!), and it is a wife's job to make sure the husband doesn't kill them (i.e., "let's toss Junior off the roof into the pool!"). Likewise, the conservative serves as the brake on the liberal's unbounded enthusiasm, and the liberal serves as the gas pedal to the conservative's desire to have things remain "status quo."

      But in a dysfunctional country, instead of the liberal (gas) and conservative (brake) being seen as the two necessary parts of a functioning vehicle - they are seen as enemies at war with one another. If either wins, we will either not go anywhere, or we will crash REAL fast.
      The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

      I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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      • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
        It is interesting that go to extreme efforts not respond to the topic of the thread and PRETEND in all threads.
        That's not even a real sentence.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Is shuny trying to mimic demiconservative with that mangled sentence structure?
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            Is shuny trying to mimic demiconservative with that mangled sentence structure?

            I think repeatedly purposely misspelling Trump's name is too taxing on his juvenile brain.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              That's not even a real sentence.
              Like you would know a real sentence if it bit you...
              The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

              I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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              • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                Oprah was a flash in the pan after the globes. I think her ego is only slightly lower than Trumps (ever notice who is on the front of each and every issue of "O?"). She does have several personal characteristics that are FAR superior to his, but she is likewise politically naive. We don't need career politicians, but we also do not need neophytes cutting their teeth on politics in the highest office in the land. I wonder what Trump would have said if he was interviewing someone for a CEO position in his company, and the person had zero management experience, and zero experience leading a company?
                If they grovelled and praised him and pledged undying loyalty, Trump would hire them. It's the ones who know what they're talking about that he fires; they embarrass him by inadvertently revealing his ignorance.
                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  If they grovelled and praised him and pledged undying loyalty, Trump would hire them. It's the ones who know what they're talking about that he fires; they embarrass him by inadvertently revealing his ignorance.
                  Trump only hires "the best people".... and then fires them.

                  Has there been a single Trump administration hire that could truly be defended as being "a really good choice"?

                  Apart from the two dozen or so of them he's fired, forced to resign, or publicly mocked, most of the others appear to be having a competition among themselves about how much taxpayer money they can waste on frivolous things ranging from private jet flights through to dining sets. And then there's Rick Perry and his degree in farming who's replaced an Obama-appointed Nobel Laureate physicist in managing the nation's nuclear stockpiles. And now Trump's appointing a torturer as head of the CIA, and Germany's currently trying to decide whether to charge her with torture under international law.

                  "The best people".

                  The fish rots from the head down.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Do you realize that the US is unusual in that it gives much more power to the president than other nations typically do?

                    One of the historical influences in that was that prior to the US declaration of independence, the British king at the time was quite supportive of the US interests, but the British parliament was not. By that time, the British king had minimal political power and the political power had almost all been moved away from the monarchy and into to the hands of the British parliament. This seems to have had an impact on the thinking of a few of the US founding fathers who realized their situation would have been a lot better if the king's political power had been stronger. As a result, when they drafted the constitution, they created the position of President, who was like an elected king, but with vastly more political power than the British king had relative to the parliament.

                    One big 'lesson of history' in the time since the creation of the US, that has been observed in nations around the world, is that giving a single person as much power as the US gives its president, tends to eventually result in problems. As a result the academic consensus now seems to be that having a powerful elected president = bad system, and that the preferable system is a parliamentary system (where rather than electing a particular person into a leadership position such as presidency, the populace instead votes for congressmen/MPs or parties, and those parties themselves appoint their leaders among themselves and can replace them at any time, like how the Speaker of the House position functions in the US) because you are not focusing political power in the hands of a single person, you are distributing it among a large group of elected people. This generally stops the formation of dictatorships because the power is always distributed and never consolidated in the hands of any single person.
                    Yet another US history lesson from Starlight

                    If the US president has so much power than other nations, then I really feel sorry for them because just watching Trump flounder and be unable to get anything done and being stopped by both congress and rogue judges in the Justice branch shows how little power the POTUS has. If other nations have less then it is no wonder Europe is in such a mess.

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                    • Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
                      Like you would know a real sentence if it bit you...
                      You just moved to the head of the list.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        You just moved to the head of the list.
                        Yeah... I kind of hoped so...
                        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                        • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          Yet another US history lesson from Starlight

                          If the US president has so much power than other nations, then I really feel sorry for them because just watching Trump flounder and be unable to get anything done and being stopped by both congress and rogue judges in the Justice branch shows how little power the POTUS has. If other nations have less then it is no wonder Europe is in such a mess.
                          You always have to find some way to put some of the blame on me and my clan don't you

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            You always have to find some way to put some of the blame on me and my clan don't you
                            This is about ME.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                              This is about ME.
                              The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                              I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                This is about ME.
                                Pffft. I didn't see him mentioning you

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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