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  • #31
    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Trump has told more lies and fake news than any other president. One of the latest whoopers was on global warming.

    Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/28/donald-trump-says-us-could-re-enter-paris-climate-deal-itv-interview


    “There is a cooling, and there’s a heating. I mean look, it used to not be climate change, it used to be global warming. That wasn’t working too well because it was getting too cold all over the place. The ice caps were going to melt, they were going to be gone by now, but now they’re setting records. They’re at a record level.”

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    For a partial list of whoopers see: http://www.politifact.com/personalit.../false/?page=4
    Your first sentence appears to itself be a falsehood of the same kind polifact accuses Trump of making - an unverfiable claim with no source.
    ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Tassmoron View Post
      There are some lies and exaggerations, as per most people including Obama and there are continuous, compulsive lies as per Trump. There is no comparison.

      “After we published a list of President Trump’s lies this summer, we heard a common response from his supporters. They said, in effect: Yes, but if you made a similar list for previous presidents, it would be just as bad. We’ve set out to make that list. Here, you will find our attempt at a comprehensive catalogue of the falsehoods that Barack Obama told while he was president”.

      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-is-worse.html
      They're seriously claiming that Obama only told 18-lies throughout his entire presidency?

      You'd have to be an idiot to believe that.

      Even the far-left Politifact has a catalog of over 60 of Obama's falsehoods, and that's far from being a comprehensive list. For that matter, Obama made at least 10 demonstrably false statements in his 2016 State of the Union address alone. Obama had such a troubled relationship with the truth that even the left-wing Washington Post coined the phrase "Obama's Blizzard of Lies", saying that "there is a culture of deceit in the Obama White House — a serial willingness to say things that are untrue to protect the president.". Then, of course, there is the list of over 1000 documented lies that I posted earlier and which you and your liberal comrades keep trying to dismiss with the wave of a hand.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #33
        10. “Fifty years of isolating Cuba had failed to promote democracy, setting us back in Latin America.” And a year of appeasement has not promoted democracy, either. The Castros remain firmly in power, and we are not helping the opposition. Worse, the Cuban regime continues to arrest thousands of political dissidents, to cozy up to enemies like Iran and North Korea, and to carry out provocative acts–such as stealing a U.S. Hellfire missile.
        How is that statement by Obama false?

        Isolating Cuba didn't promote democracy, and worsened US-Cuban relationships. That appeasement didn't promote democracy either doesn't refute that.
        Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

        MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
        MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

        seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Roy View Post
          10. “Fifty years of isolating Cuba had failed to promote democracy, setting us back in Latin America.” And a year of appeasement has not promoted democracy, either. The Castros remain firmly in power, and we are not helping the opposition. Worse, the Cuban regime continues to arrest thousands of political dissidents, to cozy up to enemies like Iran and North Korea, and to carry out provocative acts–such as stealing a U.S. Hellfire missile.
          How is that statement by Obama false?

          Isolating Cuba didn't promote democracy, and worsened US-Cuban relationships. That appeasement didn't promote democracy either doesn't refute that.
          Now let's see you defend Trump's supposed "lies" with the same critical eye and generous benefit of the doubt.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
            Your first sentence appears to itself be a falsehood of the same kind polifact accuses Trump of making - an unverfiable claim with no source.

            [qite=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/28/donald-trump-says-us-could-re-enterparis-climate-deal-itv-interview]

            “There is a cooling, and there’s a heating. I mean look, it used to not be climate change, it used to be
            global warming. That wasn’t working too well because it was getting too cold all over the place. The ice caps were going to melt, they were going to be gone by now, but now they’re setting records. They’re at a record level.” [/cite]

            The whooper is highlighted.
            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

            go with the flow the river knows . . .

            Frank

            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
              whooper
              First time I thought it was typo. Now it's just hilarious.

              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                First time I thought it was typo. Now it's just hilarious.

                Makes me think of the whooping cough! Who knows, maybe that's something they actually say in the sticks.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                  No, the two terms are considered synonymous among scientists.
                  Just picking a nit - but this is not exactly true. "Climate change" is the generic reference to, well, changes in the global climate. Warming is one particular kind of change. Cooling would be another, drying would be another. And so forth. Technically, Global Warming is a subset of Climate Change.
                  The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                  I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I'm thinkin' ya mean whoppers.

                    Thanks, now I'm hungry!

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                    How do you know he didn't mean whoopers?

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                    The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

                    I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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                    • #40
                      "I'd like a double Whooper and a large Cook, please."
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


                      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                        [qite=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/28/donald-trump-says-us-could-re-enterparis-climate-deal-itv-interview]

                        “There is a cooling, and there’s a heating. I mean look, it used to not be climate change, it used to be
                        global warming. That wasn’t working too well because it was getting too cold all over the place. The ice caps were going to melt, they were going to be gone by now, but now they’re setting records. They’re at a record level.” [/cite]

                        The whooper is highlighted.
                        Failure to engage with the substance of my post.

                        You claimed Trump has told more lies than any other President. That's unverifiable (as Tellaura pointed out) and you've given no source for that claim.
                        ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          "I'd like a double Whooper and a large Cook, please."
                          No cook! Peepsi!

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            even the left-wing Washington Post coined the phrase "Obama's Blizzard of Lies", saying that "there is a culture of deceit in the Obama White House — a serial willingness to say things that are untrue to protect the president.".
                            The link goes to an opinion piece written by a Republican who was the chief speech-writer for President George W Bush.

                            Even if we granted your ongoing BS claims that the WaPo is "left-wing": When they print an opinion piece authored by a right-winger and that right-winger makes dumb claims in the opinion piece, those are not opinions being expressed by the newspaper itself.

                            So it wasn't "the left-wing Washington Post" who coined the phrase "Obama's Blizzard of Lies", it was George W Bush's chief propagandist/speech-writer. Which rather undercuts your point that 'even' the Washington Post was saying it. Rather it simply shows that Washington Post are fools enough to print right-wing garbage. (Of course, we also know they are fools because of how much they like to smear left-wingers like Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein, but that doesn't fit with your BS "they're left-wing" narrative)
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              How is that statement by Obama false?

                              Isolating Cuba didn't promote democracy, and worsened US-Cuban relationships. That appeasement didn't promote democracy either doesn't refute that.
                              Now let's see you defend Trump's supposed "lies" with the same critical eye and generous benefit of the doubt.
                              So you won't defend your own claims, instead insisting that I defend claims I haven't made?

                              That's an impressive display of cowardice and hypocrisy.

                              Based on your underwhelming lack-of-answer, it's likely that
                              - Obama's claim is not false
                              - Obama did not lie
                              - Breitbart was wrong
                              - You were wrong
                              - You will never admit to any of the above
                              Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                              MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                              MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                              seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                Makes me think of the whooping cough! Who knows, maybe that's something they actually say in the sticks.
                                Whoopers are large swans.
                                Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                                MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                                MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                                seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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