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  • #16
    Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
    I get that a lot.
    And the translation was flawless!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
      As it's been addressed, my interest in promoting this article, especially after the release of the memo, was in how well it addressed the underlying legal claim of the memo itself.
      How? Where is 'Fourth Amendment' in memo?
      Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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      • #18
        Dershowitz and Turley both believe the (apparent) failure to inform the FISA judge of the biased nature of the dossier to be significantly problematic, and both believe that much MORE info should be released.

        Dersh: https://youtu.be/j_8bOJnGDd0

        Turley: Blog entry.
        Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

        Beige Federalist.

        Nationalist Christian.

        "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

        Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

        Proud member of the this space left blank community.

        Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

        Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

        Justice for Matthew Perna!

        Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by demi-conservative View Post
          How? Where is 'Fourth Amendment' in memo?
          Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)

          Amendment IV
          The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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          • #20
            The fact is, they couldn't show "probable cause" without the memo (McCabe has admitted this on the record) and only by deliberately concealing its true nature and lack of veracity from the court. In short, they lied to get a warrant to spy on an American citizen. It's curious how little this seems to bother liberals.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              The fact is, they couldn't show "probable cause" without the memo (McCabe has admitted this on the record) and only by deliberately concealing its true nature and lack of veracity from the court. In short, they lied to get a warrant to spy on an American citizen. It's curious how little this seems to bother liberals.
              If any of that were true, it might bother liberals. As it is, it's just you crazies make up stuff.
              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
                If any of that were true, it might bother liberals. As it is, it's just you crazies make up stuff.
                If that's what you need to tell yourself...

                But this is all evidence presented in an official memo that was voted on by a Congressional committee and approved for release by the President of the United States himself. It's not idle talk or speculation, it's cold, hard fact.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  If any of that were true, it might bother liberals. As it is, it's just you crazies make up stuff.
                  Before the memo was released every liberal news organization and democrat in congress, AND the FBI were all up in arms about how they should not be releasing the memo, it was classified and revealed strategies of the FBI, etc.

                  Yet now that it is out they are trying to pretend "nothing to see here" - right. So why were the democrats in congress and the FBI so adamant about it not being released? They knew what it said. If it was a "nothing burger" then there was no reason to whine about not releasing it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    If it was a "nothing burger" then there was no reason to whine about not releasing it.
                    Nothing revealed in the memo was worth sabotaging a classified investigation of an alleged Russian agent.

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                    • #25
                      "Originally Posted by Dimbulb"

                      Not in my threads, please.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        The fact is, they couldn't show "probable cause" without the memo (McCabe has admitted this on the record) and only by deliberately concealing its true nature and lack of veracity from the court. In short, they lied to get a warrant to spy on an American citizen. It's curious how little this seems to bother liberals.
                        v.

                        Justice Dept. told court of source’s political influence in request to wiretap ex-Trump campaign aide, officials say
                        The Justice Department made “ample disclosure of relevant, material facts” to the court that revealed “the research was being paid for by a political entity,” said one official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

                        “No thinking person who read any of these applications would come to any other conclusion but that” the work was being undertaken “at the behest of people with a partisan aim and that it was being done in opposition to Trump,” the official said.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                          "Originally Posted by Dimbulb"

                          Not in my threads, please.
                          You hear that, Dimbulb? Stay out of lao tzu's threads.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by lao tzu View Post
                            v.

                            Justice Dept. told court of source’s political influence in request to wiretap ex-Trump campaign aide, officials say
                            The Justice Department made “ample disclosure of relevant, material facts” to the court that revealed “the research was being paid for by a political entity,” said one official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

                            “No thinking person who read any of these applications would come to any other conclusion but that” the work was being undertaken “at the behest of people with a partisan aim and that it was being done in opposition to Trump,” the official said.
                            Of course there's a big difference between identifying it merely as "research ... paid for by a political entity" (what a charmingly vague euphemism) and identifying it as "unverified opposition research from a source strongly biased against Trump and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign".
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              You hear that, Dimbulb? Stay out of lao tzu's threads.
                              Not in my threads, please.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                You hear that, Dimbulb? Stay out of lao tzu's threads.
                                This is clearly a request from lao to cut the name changing in his thread. He is the OP and you are to respect his wishes.
                                Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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