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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The fact is, they couldn't show "probable cause" without the memo (McCabe has admitted this on the record) and only by deliberately concealing its true nature and lack of veracity from the court. In short, they lied to get a warrant to spy on an American citizen. It's curious how little this seems to bother liberals.
    If any of that were true, it might bother liberals. As it is, it's just you crazies make up stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimbulb View Post
    If any of that were true, it might bother liberals. As it is, it's just you crazies make up stuff.
    If that's what you need to tell yourself...

    But this is all evidence presented in an official memo that was voted on by a Congressional committee and approved for release by the President of the United States himself. It's not idle talk or speculation, it's cold, hard fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlight View Post
    If any of that were true, it might bother liberals. As it is, it's just you crazies make up stuff.
    Before the memo was released every liberal news organization and democrat in congress, AND the FBI were all up in arms about how they should not be releasing the memo, it was classified and revealed strategies of the FBI, etc.

    Yet now that it is out they are trying to pretend "nothing to see here" - right. So why were the democrats in congress and the FBI so adamant about it not being released? They knew what it said. If it was a "nothing burger" then there was no reason to whine about not releasing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    If it was a "nothing burger" then there was no reason to whine about not releasing it.
    Nothing revealed in the memo was worth sabotaging a classified investigation of an alleged Russian agent.
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    "Originally Posted by Dimbulb"

    Not in my threads, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    The fact is, they couldn't show "probable cause" without the memo (McCabe has admitted this on the record) and only by deliberately concealing its true nature and lack of veracity from the court. In short, they lied to get a warrant to spy on an American citizen. It's curious how little this seems to bother liberals.
    v.

    Justice Dept. told court of source’s political influence in request to wiretap ex-Trump campaign aide, officials say

    The Justice Department made “ample disclosure of relevant, material facts” to the court that revealed “the research was being paid for by a political entity,” said one official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

    “No thinking person who read any of these applications would come to any other conclusion but that” the work was being undertaken “at the behest of people with a partisan aim and that it was being done in opposition to Trump,” the official said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lao tzu View Post
    "Originally Posted by Dimbulb"

    Not in my threads, please.
    You hear that, Dimbulb? Stay out of lao tzu's threads.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by lao tzu View Post
    v.

    Justice Dept. told court of source’s political influence in request to wiretap ex-Trump campaign aide, officials say

    The Justice Department made “ample disclosure of relevant, material facts” to the court that revealed “the research was being paid for by a political entity,” said one official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

    “No thinking person who read any of these applications would come to any other conclusion but that” the work was being undertaken “at the behest of people with a partisan aim and that it was being done in opposition to Trump,” the official said.
    Of course there's a big difference between identifying it merely as "research ... paid for by a political entity" (what a charmingly vague euphemism) and identifying it as "unverified opposition research from a source strongly biased against Trump and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign".
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    You hear that, Dimbulb? Stay out of lao tzu's threads.
    Not in my threads, please.
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  10. Amen Jedidiah amen'd this post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    You hear that, Dimbulb? Stay out of lao tzu's threads.
    This is clearly a request from lao to cut the name changing in his thread. He is the OP and you are to respect his wishes.
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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