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    Levittown housing developments -example of wide spread post war racism.

    After World War II there were many benefits and assistance open to military veterans such as housing and education. What is not well known is the black veterans were widely excluded and discriminated against ever receiving much of these benefits.

    The huge Levittown housing development established seven huge housing development cities in the Eastern United States that openly excluded blacks and for that matter ALL racial minoroties from purchasing or renting in these cities.

    The over all consequence of this post war radical discrimination was to exclude blacks from the advantages and benefits of the Boom and growth all the way into recent years.

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levittown


    Levittown is the name of seven large suburban housing developments created in the United States of America by William Levitt and his company Levitt & Sons. Built after World War II for returning veterans and their new families—but Federal Housing Administration (FHA) lenders limited residents to "the Caucasian race", as stipulated in housing rent and sales agreements[1]—the communities offered attractive alternatives to cramped central city locations and apartments. The Veterans Administration and the FHA guaranteed builders that qualified veterans could buy housing for a fraction of rental costs. Production was modeled on assembly lines, which enabled quick and economical production of similar or identical homes with rapid recovery of costs. Standard Levittown houses included a white picket fence, green lawns, and modern appliances.

    Sales in the original Levittown began in March 1947. 1,400 homes were purchased during the first three hours.

    Places

    Levittown, New York - the first Levittown (1947–1951)
    Levittown, Pennsylvania - the second Levittown (1952–1958)
    Willingboro Township, New Jersey - originally and colloquially known as Levittown (started 1958)
    Levittown, Puerto Rico (1963)
    Bowie, Maryland (1964)
    Crofton, Maryland (1970)
    Largo, Maryland (1963)

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    What do you mean, not known? Seriously? Many former servicemen actually immigrated to Europe because of the discrimination they faced in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    What do you mean, not known? Seriously? Many former servicemen actually immigrated to Europe because of the discrimination they faced in the US.
    Yes, many unfortunately did, but it is not known today who do not recognize that this is just one part of one chapter in the history of white privilege that dominates the United States. This lead to the unequal segregation in post war USA and black ghettos, and worse.

    See carpedm9587 thread:
    http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...t-of-Privilege
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    Btw how is that privilege, in any sense of the word?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post


    Btw how is that privilege, in any sense of the word?
    It is white privilege, and ah . . . cultural domination, in any sense of the word in the USA you wish to consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    It is white privilege, and ah . . . cultural domination, in any sense of the word in the USA you wish to consider it.
    you are merely repeating the claim that it is privilege. I'm asking how is this privilege? Or cultural domination for that matter? Sounds like you're just pulling words out of thin air with no idea as to how they're actually supposed to be used. Hint: a reward for service is not "privilege" in any sense of the word, even if it is not awarded equally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    you are merely repeating the claim that it is privilege. I'm asking how is this privilege? Or cultural domination for that matter? Sounds like you're just pulling words out of thin air with no idea as to how they're actually supposed to be used. Hint: a reward for service is not "privilege" in any sense of the word, even if it is not awarded equally.
    Blacks were excluded and discriminated against for most post war HUD housing. White privilege was the access to HUD housing benefits not available to black veterans. If you are capable of reading the opening post this should be clear to you, This actually goes further concerning other post war benefits for education, and farm loans, but this thread is devoted the facts of excluding black veterans from most affordable post war housing by HUD up until the 1970s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Blacks were excluded and discriminated against for most post war HUD housing. White privilege was the access to HUD housing benefits not available to black veterans. If you are capable of reading the opening post this should be clear to you, This actually goes further concerning other post war benefits for education, and farm loans, but this thread is devoted the facts of excluding black veterans from most affordable post war housing by HUD up until the 1970s.
    You are the one not capable of reading, or even using words properly. The fact that HUD housing benefits were not available to blacks in no way makes the housing benefits a "privilege" since they are an EARNED REWARD, the exact opposite of privilege. Same with education, farm loans, etc. You are using the buzzword "privilage" while having no idea what it means. Do you understand what I am saying or is the 3+ SD gap between our IQs truly impossible to bridge?
    "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

    There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Yes, many unfortunately did, but it is not known today who do not recognize that this is just one part of one chapter in the history of white privilege that dominates the United States. This lead to the unequal segregation in post war USA and black ghettos, and worse.

    See carpedm9587 thread:
    http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...t-of-Privilege
    I'm still working on how this is news to anyone. Seriously, history class, documentaries - how the heck could you NOT already know about this?

    Also, DE's right - it's not about privilege - it's a case of discrimination, pure and simple. Not giving people fair treatment and not giving them things they earned is rightfully condemned where the color of your skin at birth should never be.

    Or is this another of 'discrimination only really happened in the South' things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    I'm still working on how this is news to anyone. Seriously, history class, documentaries - how the heck could you NOT already know about this?
    It's news to me. Not being a USan, it wasn't covered in my history classes, or in documentaries I've seen.
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