Democrat Rebutal to Nunes Memo

[carpedm9587]

So the committee apparently voted for its release.

Anyone forming a pool on what Trump will do?

[Cow Poke]

I foresee a tweet or two.

[carpedm9587]

I foresee a tweet or two.

Ya think?

[Mountain Man]

So the committee apparently voted for its release.

Anyone forming a pool on what Trump will do?

He'll release it.

[Cow Poke]

Ya think?

Or, perhaps a twitterstorm.

[NorrinRadd]

He'll release it.

I expect he will. Probably unhappily. I will happily engage as vigorously as possible in #ReleaseTheRebuttal, or whatever hashtaggery occurs, if he does not.

And release the dossier, the FISA application, flippin' EVERYTHING.

[Starlight]

Hopefully Mueller issues another round of indictments within the next week and releases a bit more information about how his investigation is going. That would bring the media a bit more back on topic from the irrelevant Nunes memo distraction.

Be interesting to see what Trump does with the Dem memo though. Trump's not a guy who tends to believe in free speech, so he'll probably label it 'fake news' in multiple tweets and refuse to release it, and have to have his arm twisted by public pressure.

[shunyadragon]

I foresee a tweet or two.

Tweet! Tweet!

[shunyadragon]

Hopefully Mueller issues another round of indictments within the next week and releases a bit more information about how his investigation is going. That would bring the media a bit more back on topic from the irrelevant Nunes memo distraction.

Be interesting to see what Trump does with the Dem memo though. Trump's not a guy who tends to believe in free speech, so he'll probably label it 'fake news' in multiple tweets and refuse to release it, and have to have his arm twisted by public pressure.

The House can vote to release it over Trump's objections.

[rogue06]

I expect he will. Probably unhappily. I will happily engage as vigorously as possible in #ReleaseTheRebuttal, or whatever hashtaggery occurs, if he does not.

And release the dossier, the FISA application, flippin' EVERYTHING.

The dossier has been available for quite some time now, FWIU.

[rogue06]

Hopefully Mueller issues another round of indictments within the next week and releases a bit more information about how his investigation is going.

Maybe this time they will have something at least remotely to do with what Trump was doing.

[Starlight]

Maybe this time they will have something at least remotely to do with what Trump was doing.

Yup, well hopefully.

Investigations apparently typically work by closing in around the target firstly by flipping someone on the outer edge and giving them a plea bargain in exchange for information on the next layer in, and then again to work their way into the center. We've had a group of 4 people on the outer edge indicted and much talk of deals made with them and flipping of them. Most liberal commentators appeared to be expecting two more sets of indictments, firstly of a middlely-involved group and subsequent attempts to flip them, and finally of Trump and his immediate conspirators.

Of course, in the case of Papadopoulos it turned out he had been indicted months earlier and had flipped and been wearing a wire for Mueller. So if it was months before that information became public, it's totally possible that Mueller has issued more indictments that simply haven't been made public yet. Given the information being leaked about Flynn's plea deal it seemed pretty certain that they were getting enough information out of Flynn to indict someone else (otherwise why give him so much leniency?), and so far it hasn't been made public who was indicted (or is to be indicted) with Flynn's information.

The investigation looks to be drawing to a close with it being made clear that Mueller wants to interview Trump, as commentators have noted that investigators always interview the top guy last after they have gathered all the other information and thus know exactly what questions to ask (and can tell if the answers are lies). However, it seems like Trump is trying to refuse to be interviewed, which may complicate the wrap-up of the investigation. Honestly I'd prefer to have it over regardless of how it turns out, as the investigation's existence ties up time and media focus that would be better spent focusing on Trump's horrible policies (e.g. the Republican 'deficit hawks' increasing the deficit by 84%, or them casually spending an extra $100 billion (double what making college tuition free would cost) on defense spending this year, or them taking healthcare away from people etc...).


P.S. Just spotted this headline in my newsfeed, out today:
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[Sparko]

so it is going to take 10 pages to refute a 3 page memo? I smell a lot of spin coming our way, but I am for releasing as much information from both sides as possible.

[Mountain Man]

I expect he will. Probably unhappily.

According to one congressional Republican, the Democrat version of the memo tries to reach different conclusions but doesn't actually dispute any of the facts contained in the first memo.

Source: House Intel Committee Votes Unanimously to Release Democratic Memo

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...mocratic-memo/

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For example, according to the Washington Compost, Democrats are saying that the FBI did disclose that "the research was being paid for by a political entity", which is such a charmingly vague euphemism and conceals the fact that it was unverified research from a source that was strongly biased against Trump and paid for by Hillary and the Democrats. Even worse, it seems that Hillary and her buddies were feeding information to Steele through Obama's State Department.

Source: Clinton Associates Fed Information to Dossier Author Steele, Grassley-Graham Memo Says

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ham-memo-says/

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As Mark Levin astutely observed, ""

[shunyadragon]

According to one congressional Republican, the Democrat version of the memo tries to reach different conclusions but doesn't actually dispute any of the facts contained in the first memo.

Source: House Intel Committee Votes Unanimously to Release Democratic Memo

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...mocratic-memo/

© Copyright Original Source

For example, according to the Washington Compost, Democrats are saying that the FBI did disclose that "the research was being paid for by a political entity", which is such a charmingly vague euphemism and conceals the fact that it was unverified research from a source that was strongly biased against Trump and paid for by Hillary and the Democrats. Even worse, it seems that Hillary and her buddies were feeding information to Steele through Obama's State Department.

Source: Clinton Associates Fed Information to Dossier Author Steele, Grassley-Graham Memo Says

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ham-memo-says/

© Copyright Original Source

As Mark Levin astutely observed, ""

The inclusion of more information from the original material definitely leads to a different conclusion. We shall wait and see.