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    The answer to Christian3 "What is your definition of the concept of the Trinity?" is according to Christian faith Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons; the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    The answer to Christian3 "What is your definition of the concept of the Trinity?" is according to Christian faith Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons; the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit
    And that contradicts the Bible how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faber View Post
    And that contradicts the Bible how?
    For example, Jesus specifically called the Father "the only true God" in John 17:3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    For example, Jesus specifically called the Father "the only true God" in John 17:3.
    But Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30) So where's the contradiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faber View Post
    But Jesus said, “I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30) So where's the contradiction?
    Jesus saying in John 10:30 "I and the Father are one" does not make Jesus God as Jesus prayed to the Father in John 17:21 about the disciples "that they also may be in us".


    In refuting the Jews stoning him as he said "I and the Father are one", Jesus said "34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Same Hakeem View Post
    Jesus saying in John 10:30 "I and the Father are one" does not make Jesus God as Jesus prayed to the Father in John 17:21 about the disciples "that they also may be in us".


    In refuting the Jews stoning him as he said "I and the Father are one", Jesus said "34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them “gods” to whom the word of God came —and Scripture cannot be set aside — 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am GodÂ’s SonÂ’?"
    Certainly Jesus prayed to the Father. And that proves He is not a Divine Person, because……why, exactly ?

    Or is that question turning this exchange into a debate, perhaps ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushing Jaws View Post
    Certainly Jesus prayed to the Father. And that proves He is not a Divine Person, because……why, exactly ?

    Or is that question turning this exchange into a debate, perhaps ?
    What distiguishes the three? Are they of the same mind, or should I say do they have three separate minds?

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    Jesus saying "i and the Father are one" does not make Jesus God because Jesus prayed to the Fathers for the disciples in John 17:21 & 23 that "May they also be in us" and " I in them and you in me"

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