Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 35

Thread: Re-conversion

  1. #21
    Evolution is God's ID rogue06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Southeastern U.S. of A.
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    36,845
    Amen (Given)
    858
    Amen (Received)
    14792
    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    His grammar is fine. He's merely missing the notation "internal citations omitted."

    /pedant
    I guess we can say that pedantry wasn't something you gave up for Lent.

    I'm always still in trouble again

  2. #22
    Must...have...caffeine One Bad Pig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Inside the beltway
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    16,098
    Amen (Given)
    5065
    Amen (Received)
    9319
    Quote Originally Posted by rogue06 View Post
    I guess we can say that pedantry wasn't something you gave up for Lent.
    Lent doesn't start for me until Monday.
    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

    Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio

    I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

  3. Amen lao tzu, Rushing Jaws amen'd this post.
  4. #23
    Troll Magnet Sparko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    38,441
    Amen (Given)
    3526
    Amen (Received)
    18201
    Quote Originally Posted by The Remonstrant View Post
    Is employing proper grammar and punctuation, superscripting scriptural verses, and including the proper citation of the English Bible version(s) one is utilising in a given post too much to require of oneself?
    It seems all you do is go around correcting other people's posts. At first I thought you were just being a bit humorous, but you are serious. You really need to get a better hobby. It is overly pedantic of you. This is an internet debate forum, not English 101.

  5. #24
    Evolution is God's ID rogue06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Southeastern U.S. of A.
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    36,845
    Amen (Given)
    858
    Amen (Received)
    14792
    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Lent doesn't start for me until Monday.
    In that case, pedantificate away.

    I'm always still in trouble again

  6. Amen Rushing Jaws amen'd this post.
  7. #25
    tWebber The Remonstrant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    645
    Amen (Given)
    189
    Amen (Received)
    83
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    It seems all you do is go around correcting other people's posts.
    That is an exaggeration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    At first I thought you were just being a bit humorous, but you are serious. You really need to get a better hobby. It is overly pedantic of you. This is an internet debate forum, not English 101.
    No offence is/was intended. I make grammatical and punctuational errors on occasion and am happy to later correct them or have them corrected by others if need be.
    [I]f what you have heard from the beginning remains in you, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. … The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. (1 Jn 2.24; 5.12, LEB)

    <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>


    Farewell. (Sat., 24 Mar. 2018)

  8. Amen Rushing Jaws amen'd this post.
  9. #26
    Troll Magnet Sparko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    38,441
    Amen (Given)
    3526
    Amen (Received)
    18201
    Quote Originally Posted by The Remonstrant View Post
    That is an exaggeration.



    No offence is/was intended. I make grammatical and punctuational errors on occasion and am happy to later correct them or have them corrected by others if need be.
    That is very condescending and annoying of you.

  10. Amen Obsidian amen'd this post.
  11. #27
    tWebber The Remonstrant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    645
    Amen (Given)
    189
    Amen (Received)
    83
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    That is very condescending and annoying of you.
    You are free to maintain your opinions and misjudgements. I have nothing further to add here.
    [I]f what you have heard from the beginning remains in you, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. … The one who has the Son has the life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. (1 Jn 2.24; 5.12, LEB)

    <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>


    Farewell. (Sat., 24 Mar. 2018)

  12. #28
    Must...have...caffeine One Bad Pig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Inside the beltway
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    16,098
    Amen (Given)
    5065
    Amen (Received)
    9319
    Quote Originally Posted by The Remonstrant View Post
    You are free to maintain your opinions and misjudgements. I have nothing further to add here.
    You do know you just replied to an accusation of being condescending and annoying by exhibiting precisely that behavior, right?
    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

    Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio

    I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

  13. Amen Jedidiah amen'd this post.
  14. #29
    Troll Magnet Sparko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Faith
    Christian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    38,441
    Amen (Given)
    3526
    Amen (Received)
    18201
    Quote Originally Posted by The Remonstrant View Post
    You are free to maintain your opinions and misjudgements. I have nothing further to add here.
    "Here" is superfluous.

  15. Amen Jedidiah amen'd this post.
  16. #30
    tWebber Rushing Jaws's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Near my best friend (see photo above)
    Faith
    Ultramontane Papist XPian
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    441
    Amen (Given)
    1428
    Amen (Received)
    87
    Quote Originally Posted by element771 View Post
    I don't agree with this assessment. I believe that God makes use of all believers and all types of personalities.

    I will use myself as an example. I am a naturally skeptical person...which may be why I am a scientist. However, it is this skepticism that has lead me to Christ. My journey was largely an intellectual one and not an emotional one. This is where I struggle as I am not really an emotional person. I have problems trying to apply logic and reason to too many aspects of my life. I am aware of this. However, I believe that God uses my predispositions to share the good news with others of a similar mindset.

    Believe me, I wish I was not like this. It is not a fun place to be. I beg and pray for God to change me so that I may be able to rest in the Gospel more fully. That being said, God gave me the gift of intellectual curiosity. As such I deal with it and thank God for the blessings that he has bestowed on me. A lot of people have gifts that are also curses...why should I be any different?

    I live in a world of science and empiricism. I am constantly bombarded with other's beliefs of materialism, reductionism, etc. Being a fallible human being, it takes its toll. I continue to doubt and be uncertain (it comes and goes) but I never give up on my faith in Christ. When I am challenged by skeptics, I fully admit that I may be wrong, that I am not certain, and that I don't have all of the answers. Instead of my uncertainty being met with derision, they usually put their guard down and listen more attentively. I have yet to convert anyone but I don't give up. The one thing that I have been told by my skeptic friends is that they no longer view belief in God as irrational, delusional, and for the simple minded. I consider this a small victory.

    If I were to take your warning of being born again (not entirely sure what that means exactly) as a necessity, I would give up. I am just not made that way. However, I don't think that means that I cannot believe that I need a Savior and that Christ was the incarnation of the Word. Maybe my faith is too one dimensional, I fully accept that this may be a possibility and I am working on this.


    Furthremore, I don't take Genesis as a historical record. I take Genesis to be a story about creation. Why would God tell us a story about how he created the universe? The same reason that I tell stories to my children when they ask about complex topics that they have no frame of reference for. How could we as limited humans understand God's act of creation? The real explanation would probably be more like...God spoke. That is great but it also wouldn't satisfy our desire for a little more explanation. I don't think that this makes me a liberal. I believe that Jesus was God's son (the Messiah) who died on the cross for our sins, was physically resurrected from the dead, and will return at some future time to judge the living and the dead. Even if I don't think that Johan was really swallowed by a whale...how would this make me a liberal Christian? I would like to apologize in advance if this was not a point that you were trying to make.
    IMHO, the Genesis narratives are much like Greek mythology - a mixture of myth, legend, and fact. The Greeks had the heroes and the Giants, the Jews had the Nephilim. The Greeks had eponymous characters like Hellen, Pelasgus, and Dorus; Genesis has Jacob-Israel, and the 12 fathers of the 12 Tribes. The river-god of Jabbok in Gen.31 is the same kind of being as the gods of the Greek rivers.

    The similarities cannot be pressed too far, because it would be wrong to muffle what is distinctive and significant about Genesis. But there are genuine similarities, so it cannot be wrong to draw attention to them.

  17. Amen KingsGambit amen'd this post.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •