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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostIt was hotly debated from its inception for reasons very much like donald trump. Benjamin Franklin spoke clearly about the success of our system being based on any educated and moral population. Dt shows us why that is so. AND as bizarre as it sounds, Dt was able to leverage the the hatred, fear, and lack of education of the evanfelical Christian population to get them to vote for the antithesis of Jesus Christ. And to keep them in his court in spite of constant lying and massive moral lapses.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSounds like sour grapes to me. My issue with Hillary is how she broke serious laws that would have landed me into prison and the FBI worked tirelessly on ensuring that she got away with it. That’s why I didn’t vote nor will vote for her or anyone that keeps making excuses for her.
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSo you’re talking about Hillary again?
JimMy brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostActually Texas would be one of the half dozen.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostNo, that is silly. The last person I want to see president is Hillary Clinton ... unless my only other option is Donald Trump, or maybe David Duke. You get the idea. You need to figure out that my oppositon to DT is not because I am of a liberal mindset. My opposition to DT is that he's the bottom of the barrel, and compromised when it comes to russia.
Jim"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostThe vote between Hillary and DT was and remains a rock and a hard place. And if the Republicans had maintained a reasonable moral center and pushed back on trumps largess, things would not be so bad. But they and so many in america have allowed their hatred for liberal policies and Hillary in specific to put into power something far worse than a Hillary Clinton."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd yet there really was only two people that had a reasonable shot at being president. There was either criminal Clinton or Don the Cheeto. I choose the one least likely to sell us up the river.
However, where I draw the line is supporting his immoral actions and policies. So if a person votes for DT and doesn't speak out against his largess given how extreme it is, it would seem to me now it's not just a rock and a hard place where a person can actually never know for sure if they made the right decision, but rather being complicit with his immorality and recklessness.
You see, it was my hope we'd have "The Hillory" for prez and a gaggle of GOP congressmen and senators who would have no problem blasting the more idiotic policies she would push into oblivion.
But now we have that same gaggle of GOP congressmen and senators, but they are deaf, dumb, and mute and we have the reckless Narcissistic Psychopath running the show, in Putin's pocket, and with a core base of 30 some odd percent that literally would look the other way if he killed somebody as long as they didn't know whoever it was He killed.
JimLast edited by oxmixmudd; 07-14-2018, 03:02 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd yet Trump still isn’t as bad as Hillary for president.
And the fact he was elected, especially by the evangelical base, puts a cap on the fact the in the US, conservative evangelical Christianity has all but capitulated to the god of mammon.
Jim
*I am talking about those that received support from the two major parties during their primaries. I'm not talking about fringe elements, or David Duke, or whatever ancillary person you might pull out of a hat to say "ANYONE?" as a brain dead challenge to the fact I'm clearly using hyperbole here.Last edited by oxmixmudd; 07-14-2018, 03:10 PM.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostActually, we disagree on that. But I understand reasonable people can and did differ on which of the two would have been the worse of the two.
However, where I draw the line is supporting his immoral actions and policies. So if a person votes for DT and doesn't speak out against his largess given how extreme it is, it would seem to me now it's not just a rock and a hard place where a person can actually never know for sure if they made the right decision, but rather being complicit with his immorality and recklessness.
You see, it was my hope we'd have "The Hillory" for prez and a gaggle of GOP congressmen and senators who would have no problem blasting the more idiotic policies she would push into oblivion.
But now we have that same gaggle of GOP congressmen and senators, but they are deaf, dumb, and mute and we have the reckless Narcissistic Psychopath running the show, in Putin's pocket, and with a core base of 30 some odd that literally would look the other way if he killed somebody as long as they didn't know whoever it was He killed."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Postwrong. Trump is the worst possible choice for president out of the entire primary field - Democrat and Republican. ANYONE else that presented themselves as a legitimate potential candidate for the 2016 race would have been a better choice*.
And the fact he was elected, especially by the evangelical base, puts a cap on the fact the in the US, conservative evangelical Christianity has all but capitulated to the god of mammon.
*I am talking about those that received support from the two major parties during their primaries. I'm not talking about fringe elements, or David Duke, or whatever ancillary person you might pull out of a hat to say "ANYONE?" as a brain dead challenge to the fact I'm clearly using hyperbole here."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
And when was the last time a third party won a major election?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Postwrong. Trump is the worst possible choice for president out of the entire primary field - Democrat and Republican. ANYONE else that presented themselves as a legitimate potential candidate for the 2016 race would have been a better choice*.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostBut now we have that same gaggle of GOP congressmen and senators, but they are deaf, dumb, and mute and we have the reckless Narcissistic Psychopath running the show, in Putin's pocket, and with a core base of 30 some odd percent that literally would look the other way if he killed somebody as long as they didn't know whoever it was He killed.
JimEnter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostUh, Jim? Trump hasn't exactly been successful at getting things through Congress - largely because there is enough GOP opposition to whatever he's passing that he'd need Democrats to cross the aisle in order to attain that, and they've been pretty good at taking up the mantle of "the party of NO.""I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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