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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd yet actions speak louder than words. How is:
1. Pushing for a stronger NATO .
2. Pressuring Germany to gain energy independence from Russia.
3. Giving Ukraine weapons and training.
4. Countering Russia in Syria.
5. Putting greater sanctions on Russia and pressing Europe to do the same.
The signs of a Russian Puppet? Simply put, it isn’t. Stop with the conspiracy theories, they don’t help your cause.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Tassmoron View PostYes. Former CIA director John Brennan said: the Trump-Putin press conference “nothing short of treasonous”. “Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin.”Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYes. Former CIA director John Brennan said: the Trump-Putin press conference “nothing short of treasonous”. “Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVI_kNH2Hl8
THAT John Brennan?Last edited by Cow Poke; 07-18-2018, 10:06 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYes. Former CIA director John Brennan said: the Trump-Putin press conference “nothing short of treasonous”. “Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin.”
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt would be a whole lot more impressive if it had come from someone who wasn't an Obama toady (his friends have described him as "fiercely loyal" to the former POTUS), who hadn't called for a coup (talk about treasonous, there you go) if Trump fired Mueller, who didn't lie through his teeth when he testified about the Steele dossier[1], didn't vote for the Communist Party (CPUSA) ticket when he was in college (how did anyone like that become head of the CIA?) etc...
1. claiming it played no role whatsoever in factoring into the intelligence community’s conclusions about Russia's meddling and any role Trump may have played (despite the fact the agencies relied heavily on it to take out a warrant to secretly surveil a Trump adviser) and had no idea who commissioned it (in spite of the fact that both senior national security and counterintelligence officials at the Justice Department and FBI knew the previous year that the dossier was funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign)
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYep... in matters of diplomacy and foreign policy, what is said at a press conference is less important than actions. The press conference gave liberals some talking points, but that's all it did."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostSo we should not take what he says seriously, or what is your point? Do you find it is a problem when people hold him accountable for what he says in public?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThere’s a fine line between accountability and hysterics.
Do you think he would have come up with his "I misspoke" statement if it was not for the fact that so many people even among republicans clearly told him that what he said was completely absurd?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd? What exactly has been hysteric? Please be exact.
Do you think he would have come up with his "I misspoke" statement if it was not for the fact that so many people even among republicans clearly told him that what he said was completely absurd?"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Chuckles View PostSo we should not take what he says seriously, or what is your point? Do you find it is a problem when people hold him accountable for what he says in public?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSaying silly things doesn’t make one a traitor or a Russian agent. That is where the hysterics comes to play."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostMy point is, you have to understand the rules of the game before you start crying "Foul!""Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostAnd the rules of the game is that you contradict your own intelligence services and trust anti democratic leaders when you meet them? Or you refer to some other rule?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI take it you don't accept his correction to that."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI know he corrected himself but my best guess is he made the explanation up because the criticism was too hard after all.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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