Trump and Stormy Daniels

[Starlight]

For those not following the general developments of this story over the last month, let's recap... Allegedly:

- Shortly after Trump's son Barron, was born in 2006, Trump cheated on his wife Melania, with a porn star who goes by the stage-name 'Stormy Daniels' (real name Stephanie Gregory Clifford).
- Stormy Daniels mentioned the affair shortly after the time, but it was not widely publicized.
- Shortly before the November 2016, Trump's lawyer contacted Stormy Daniels and a number of other women Trump had had affairs with and gave them hush-money. Stormy Daniels received $130k.
- It was generally alleged by the media that there was a non-disclosure agreement in place preventing Stormy Daniels from talking and she supported this notion in interviews by refusing to give answers with a smile on her face.
- Trump's lawyer seems to have a constantly shifting story about who actually paid for this hush money. Various allegations have been swirling as to whether it came from Trump's campaign funds (illegal) or whether the lawyer just paid it out of his own pocket (borderline illegal / wildly unprofessional).
- Stormy Daniels is now alleging that she has legal advice that Trump's lawyer has said so much to the media that he's violated his end of the non-disclosure agreement with her, and so now she is free to tell her story without financial repercussions.
- The latest development is that she suggests she has a 'Monica Lewinsky' dress to test for Trump's DNA.
- Trump's wife Melania is allegedly furious at all this and is now generally refusing to accompany Trump in public.

I'm wondering what the views of the 'family values' and 'we persecute Bill Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair' posters here are?

I'm guessing it's along the lines of "we have no real values or morals and are just pathetic partisan hacks, so we have no issue with the hypocrisy of critiquing Bill Clinton but defending our Great Trump. He can have affairs and sleep with pornstars, and illegally pay them off out of campaign funds all he likes, and we'll defend everything he does."

[seer]

Gee, Trump sounds like John and Ted Kennedy or Bill Clinton... BTW - no one was after Clinton for his affairs, but for lying to a federal investigation/court.

[Sparko]

Shouldn't we wait to see if he is guilty before hanging him?

[Mountain Man]

It was nice of Dimbulb to include the word "allegedly" in his opening sentence because it signals to discerning readers that they shouldn't waste their time reading any further.

[Sparko]

wait, so this woman has kept some stained dress since 2006 just in case he was ever elected President?

[Starlight]

Shouldn't we wait to see if he is guilty before hanging him?

Which part of his lawyer having admitted to paying out hush-money says "not-guilty" to you?

Does your lawyer contact people you didn't sleep with and pay them hush money to not talk about the thing that didn't happen, and then tell the media that he paid the money out of his own pocket and that you Definitely Didn't pay him to do it?

[Mountain Man]

Shouldn't we wait to see if he is guilty before hanging him?

You know how the liberal mind operates: an accusation is as good as a conviction.

[Sparko]

Which part of his lawyer having admitted to paying out hush-money says "not-guilty" to you?

Does your lawyer contact people you didn't sleep with and pay them hush money to not talk about the thing that didn't happen, and then tell the media that he paid the money out of his own pocket and that you Definitely Didn't pay him to do it?

Where does his lawyer admit to paying hush money?

[rogue06]

You know how the liberal mind operates: an accusation is as good as a conviction.

Only if the one being accused is conservative.

[Starlight]

Where does his lawyer admit to paying hush money?

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket:

Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, said on Tuesday that he had paid $130,000 out of his own pocket...

“Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”

Trump's lawyer's response to the allegations that the payment were illegally made out of Trump's campaign funds (thus violating federal laws for how campaign funds are to be used), was to claim that he made the payment himself out of his own money. We are supposed to believe that Trump had Totally No Idea that his lawyer was randomly paying off women Trump had had affairs with.

[Sparko]

There is also a big difference if he had an affair back in 2006 and Bill Clinton having an affair while in office.

People can change. Trump says he became a Christian. Not sure if that's true but if so, that does make a difference.

[Sparko]

Michael D. Cohen, Trump’s Longtime Lawyer, Says He Paid Stormy Daniels Out of His Own Pocket:

Michael D. Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, said on Tuesday that he had paid $130,000 out of his own pocket...

“Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “The payment to Ms. Clifford was lawful, and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone.”

Trump's lawyer's response to the allegations that the payment were illegally made out of Trump's campaign funds (thus violating federal laws for how campaign funds are to be used), was to claim that he made the payment himself out of his own money. We are supposed to believe that Trump had Totally No Idea that his lawyer was randomly paying off women Trump had had affairs with.

So then there is no admission by anyone that it was "hush money" for some affair?

Come back when you have more than innuendo.

Cohen, who has called himself the “fix-it guy” for Trump, had pushed back against the suggestion of a payout to Daniels ever since the Wall Street Journal first reported it last month. In response to that report, Cohen waved away “rumors” that he said “have circulated time and again since 2011,” and he also issued a statement bearing Daniels’s signature denying that she “received hush money from Donald Trump.”

Since that time, Daniels’s signature also appeared on another statement saying she never had an affair with Trump, though in recent public appearances, she has avoided explicitly denying an affair or saying whether she received a settlement.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.768a0b3e7b76

[whag]

It was nice of Dimbulb to include the word "allegedly" in his opening sentence because it signals to discerning readers that they shouldn't waste their time reading any further.

Trump’s attorney confirms that it happened.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/15...nal-funds.html

[whag]

Only if the one being accused is conservative.

Yup, like those infamous conservatives Harvey Weinstein, Louis CK, Kevin Spacey.

[whag]

There is also a big difference if he had an affair back in 2006 and Bill Clinton having an affair while in office.

People can change. Trump says he became a Christian. Not sure if that's true but if so, that does make a difference.

My how convenient. You can’t be president without declaring some form of Christian belief. Name one president who declared himself otherwise.