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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    So then there is no admission by anyone that it was "hush money" for some affair?

    Come back when you have more than innuendo.


    Cohen, who has called himself the “fix-it guy” for Trump, had pushed back against the suggestion of a payout to Daniels ever since the Wall Street Journal first reported it last month. In response to that report, Cohen waved away “rumors” that he said “have circulated time and again since 2011,” and he also issued a statement bearing Daniels’s signature denying that she “received hush money from Donald Trump.”

    Since that time, Daniels’s signature also appeared on another statement saying she never had an affair with Trump, though in recent public appearances, she has avoided explicitly denying an affair or saying whether she received a settlement.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.768a0b3e7b76
    She had to be vague about it because of the legal agreement to not say anything about it. If the NDA money wasn’t taxed, it couldn’t have been a gift.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      and he also issued a statement bearing Daniels’s signature denying that she “received hush money from Donald Trump.”
      That statement has been mocked because her 'signature' on it looks nothing like her signature.

      Whether she deliberately mis-wrote her own signature or whether Cohen wrote and signed the statement 'for her' I guess may come to light from further scrutiny.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #18
        Originally posted by whag View Post
        My how convenient. You can’t be president without declaring some form of Christian belief. Name one president who declared himself otherwise.
        If I am ever elected US President, I promise I will Totally Convert to Christianity.

        The President's professed religious beliefs Shall Not Be Questioned, unless he is named Obama, in which case he's totally not a Christian regardless of what he says and does.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • #19
          Originally posted by whag View Post
          My how convenient. You can’t be president without declaring some form of Christian belief. Name one president who declared himself otherwise.
          I said "not sure if it is true or not"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            If I am ever elected US President, I promise I will Totally Convert to Christianity.

            The President's professed religious beliefs Shall Not Be Questioned, unless he is named Obama, in which case he's totally not a Christian regardless of what he says and does.
            I have a thread around here questioning whether Trump is really Christian or not. I don't know for sure. I am kinda doubting it the way he acts. I don't think he even understands what being a Christian means.

            I do know that so far there is no proof of "hush money" being paid or of an affair. Heck the way it looks right now maybe his Lawyer is the one who had the affair. He is the one who paid her 130K out of his own funds.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              I'm wondering what the views of the 'family values' and 'we persecute Bill Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky affair' posters here are?

              I'm guessing it's along the lines of "we have no real values or morals and are just pathetic partisan hacks, so we have no issue with the hypocrisy of critiquing Bill Clinton but defending our Great Trump. He can have affairs and sleep with pornstars, and illegally pay them off out of campaign funds all he likes, and we'll defend everything he does."
              The rules you create will be used against you. We will no longer remove pieces from the chessboard if it is not reciprocated. Democrats went to the mat for rapist bill clinton and his sexual predator enabling wife. Trump is useful and as long as he remains useful I will continue to support him in spite of his odious personal morality because he is a net good overall, above and beyond a well behaved traitor who's loyal to his wife like Jeb Bush would be.
              "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

              There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                I said "not sure if it is true or not"
                Are you sure it’s true for anyone? On what do you base your certainty?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                  The rules you create will be used against you. We will no longer remove pieces from the chessboard if it is not reciprocated. Democrats went to the mat for rapist bill clinton and his sexual predator enabling wife. Trump is useful and as long as he remains useful I will continue to support him in spite of his odious personal morality because he is a net good overall, above and beyond a well behaved traitor who's loyal to his wife like Jeb Bush would be.
                  By that logic, if he molested children but also was a good president in your eyes, you’d continue to support him. The only criteria to abandon support is if he relents on any main part of the agenda?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                    There is also a big difference if he had an affair back in 2006 and Bill Clinton having an affair while in office.
                    Clinton not only had the affair in office, and flat out LIED about it, but had cabinet members lie* for him, as well! And don't forget the bimbo eruption squads!



                    *technically, they probably weren't 'lying', as Clinton probably convinced them he was totally innocent.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      If I am ever elected US President...
                      Thank you, Lord Jesus, that this is not even a remote possibility.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by whag View Post
                        By that logic, if he molested children but also was a good president in your eyes, you’d continue to support him.
                        If he molested children he'd become a much bigger liability than benefit so no.

                        The only criteria to abandon support is if he relents on any main part of the agenda?
                        The only foreseeable criteria.
                        "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                        There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          we'll defend everything he does."
                          Projecting, confusing conservatives with libs again. Sad!
                          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by whag View Post
                            Are you sure it’s true for anyone? On what do you base your certainty?
                            I can only really be sure of myself. But I can be fairly sure if others are saved and true Christians by watching their lives and actions.

                            Matthew 7:15“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

                            21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

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