Ok, I have said this before, I grew up in those backward years of the 50s and 60s, when firearms were actually much easier to get. I owned many myself as a teenager (including military semi-auto rifles). And though you had the occasional mass shooting they were nothing compared to what we have seen in the last 25 years. So what is going on? What are your thoughts about the underlying cause(s) of these events?
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Mass Shootings, Why
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3sTags: None
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The breakup of the nuclear family, and removing discipline from the schools.
I was raised where you never sassed a teacher, and if you ever complained to mom that a teacher gave you a "swat", you only did that one time, cause mom would give you TWO swats for making trouble.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe breakup of the nuclear family, and removing discipline from the schools.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostThe heart of man is desperately wicked........Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI agree, so why aren't we talking about this too? Or even more? And I wonder how many of these shooters were on antidepressants or anti-psychotic meds?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's the whole point, to me, Seer. We're reaping the whirlwind of the social engineering of the 60's and 70's, but nobody wants to own that. Much easier to blame hardware than failed policies.
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It's way too easy to blame the demonic "other" for this. There have always been liberals and conservatives as competing political movements. There have always been wave cycles in the loosening and tightening of moral values. This is well documented history.
The media attention on atrocity and the kind of outraged, ideological bubbles that people inhabit on line have to have something to do with this."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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I agree with a few of the theories present in this thread. I think a lot of it ultimately comes down to a focus on the individual to the detriment of the collective society. There's no longer any real sense of public or community shame pressing individuals to do the right thing, and in a world where celebrities are the new pantheon, a mass shooting is an easy way to the top. It's a total schizoid world we live in where many people no longer know their next door neighbors, but are desperate for the rest of the world to recognize that they exist.
I've mentioned this before, but there's a great documentary on the rise of mass shootings in America called Murder by Proxy: How America Went Postal which discusses the rise of the mass shooting phenomenon and its feedback loop.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostI agree with a few of the theories present in this thread. I think a lot of it ultimately comes down to a focus on the individual to the detriment of the collective society. There's no longer any real sense of public or community shame pressing individuals to do the right thing, and in a world where celebrities are the new pantheon, a mass shooting is an easy way to the top. It's a total schizoid world we live in where many people no longer know their next door neighbors, but are desperate for the rest of the world to recognize that they exist.
I've mentioned this before, but there's a great documentary on the rise of mass shootings in America called Murder by Proxy: How America Went Postal which discusses the rise of the mass shooting phenomenon and its feedback loop.
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Originally posted by seer View PostOk, I have said this before, I grew up in those backward years of the 50s and 60s, when firearms were actually much easier to get. I owned many myself as a teenager (including military semi-auto rifles). And though you had the occasional mass shooting they were nothing compared to what we have seen in the last 25 years. So what is going on? What are your thoughts about the underlying cause(s) of these events?Originally posted by mossrose View PostThe heart of man is desperately wicked........Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's the whole point, to me, Seer. We're reaping the whirlwind of the social engineering of the 60's and 70's, but nobody wants to own that. Much easier to blame hardware than failed policies.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's the whole point, to me, Seer. We're reaping the whirlwind of the social engineering of the 60's and 70's, but nobody wants to own that. Much easier to blame hardware than failed policies.
“Because teachers today don’t swat kids for misbehavior.”
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Originally posted by whag View PostYup, let’s completely ignore the dark ages, chattel slavery, pograms, hundreds of instances of genocide, etc. that preceded today’s violent expressions of mental illness. Why does this happen?
“Because teachers today don’t swat kids for misbehavior.”The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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