Originally posted by Adrift
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
Civics 101 Guidelines
Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!
Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less
Mass Shootings, Why
Collapse
X
-
-
Mass Shootings, Why
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's the whole point, to me, Seer. We're reaping the whirlwind of the social engineering of the 60's and 70's, but nobody wants to own that. Much easier to blame hardware than failed policies.Originally posted by Sparko View Postyep. started with the liberal movement in the 70's. drugs, free love, no discipline. Those hippies are the ones sitting in Washington today making the laws. the ones teaching kids for the last 40 years. RAISING kids. Those kids grew up and are today's millennials.
Who could have guessed???Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
Comment
-
Originally posted by guacamole View PostIt's way too easy to blame the demonic "other" for this. There have always been liberals and conservatives as competing political movements. There have always been wave cycles in the loosening and tightening of moral values. This is well documented history.
The media attention on atrocity and the kind of outraged, ideological bubbles that people inhabit on line have to have something to do with this.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
Comment
-
Originally posted by seer View PostOk, I have said this before, I grew up in those backward years of the 50s and 60s, when firearms were actually much easier to get. I owned many myself as a teenager (including military semi-auto rifles). And though you had the occasional mass shooting they were nothing compared to what we have seen in the last 25 years. So what is going on? What are your thoughts about the underlying cause(s) of these events?
I bet if teachers practiced open carry that schools would suddenly become a less appealing target.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
Comment
-
Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post"Gun Free Zones" are a relatively recent phenomenon, and the majority of mass shootings happen where the victims are unlikely to shoot back. I can't imagine this is a coincidence.
I bet if teachers practiced open carry that schools would suddenly become a less appealing target.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI like the idea of concealed carry - so you don't know WHICH teachers are armed.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
Comment
-
Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd a big sign on the door saying, "School Staff is Armed and Will Respond to Threats With Deadly Force".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
Comment
-
It's a little meme-y, but I like this in reply to the idea of arming teachers:
https://www.facebook.com/UTLAnow/vid...6126557742129/
Comment
-
Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt's a little meme-y, but I like this in reply to the idea of arming teachers:
https://www.facebook.com/UTLAnow/vid...6126557742129/The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostIn my case, it would only be those teachers who wanted to, were qualified, and trained.... like the coach who was also "security" whose only 'weapon' was his body.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt just seems like putting a band-aid on a much deeper issue. I mean, it just seems surreal to me that people are seriously talking about arming teachers in order to defend their classes from postal students.
The wiser solution seems to be to change the environment so that the student never goes postal in the first place, and prevent him from acquiring the tools he needs in case he does.
And in a nation that's already dealing with police gun violence that's unprecedented in the Western world, arming teachers sounds like a huge mistake. The first time that a teacher shoots a student they mistakenly assume is armed, or that they feel otherwise threatened by, people will lose their minds.Armed and Trained to Respond to Threats With Deadly Force" - and make sure the "trained" part is actually true.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Adrift View PostIt's a little meme-y, but I like this in reply to the idea of arming teachers:
https://www.facebook.com/UTLAnow/vid...6126557742129/
In the meantime, we need to recognize that "Gun Free Zones" have been a disaster and should be abolished. Besides, imagine how much better behaved students would be if they knew their teachers were packing heat.Last edited by Mountain Man; 02-17-2018, 12:00 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
Comment
-
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThat's certainly an issue that needs to be addressed, which is why I stressed
Armed and Trained to Respond to Threats With Deadly Force" - and make sure the "trained" part is actually true.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think you're trying too hard to find a perfect-ish solution (or one to your own liking, or that you consider "wisest") rather than "what all can we do"?
Comment
Related Threads
Collapse
Topics | Statistics | Last Post | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
Started by seer, Yesterday, 01:12 PM
|
4 responses
72 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by Sparko
Yesterday, 02:38 PM
|
||
Started by rogue06, 04-17-2024, 09:33 AM
|
45 responses
407 views
1 like
|
Last Post
by Starlight
Yesterday, 05:05 PM
|
||
Started by whag, 04-16-2024, 10:43 PM
|
60 responses
390 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by seanD
Yesterday, 03:09 PM
|
||
Started by rogue06, 04-16-2024, 09:38 AM
|
0 responses
27 views
1 like
|
Last Post
by rogue06
04-16-2024, 09:38 AM
|
||
Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, 04-16-2024, 06:47 AM
|
100 responses
451 views
0 likes
|
Last Post Today, 03:52 AM |
Comment