An infinite series of finite causes.

[seer]

I wish you would give citations so I can find those in context, since according to Adam "the general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity." I know where that quote came from (and I linked it). So you can not divorce Christianity from the Founding of this nation.



Tass, are you being deceptive on purpose? Where did Jefferson borrow the term "nature's God" from? Where did they get the idea that rights came from God? And no the DoI references God three times:

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator ith a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor

The members of the Continental Congresses did a lot that was subsequently invalidated by the purely secular Constitution which superseded them...as has been demonstrated by the rulings of the SCOTUS when challenged.

THAT WAS NOT MY POINT TASS.Why would these Christian hating Founders, these so called Deists, use tax monies to print and distribute bibles, institute the chaplain service, impose Christian morality on the Navy and Army, us tax monies to evangelize Indians, call for national days of thanksgiving invoking, not only the God of the Bible, but Jesus Christ specifically?

especially those with things of substance to contribute such as Shunya.

[shunyadragon]

Seer's ignore is off and on like cold and hot water at his convenience. Please as promised return to the topic of the thread. Let seer be the hamster on the wheel alone.

[Tassman]

Seer's ignore is off and on like cold and hot water at his convenience. Please as promised return to the topic of the thread. Let seer be the hamster on the wheel alone.

Oh yes, I too been "punished" at times by said person. And, as promised, I won't respond further to his repetitious, self-serving nonsense.

[seer]

Oh yes, I too been "punished" at times by said person. And, as promised, I won't respond further to his repetitious, self-serving nonsense.

Everything I said Tass was backed up, and you know it. And why would I deal with Shuny who uses deception: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...rlier-universe