Trump's Media Genius

[Zymologist]

I doubt Trump will make it to 2020 at this rate.

Are you thinking impeachment, or assassination?

[Charles]

Look at how many doubted he would make it trough the primary, or to the general election, or through the first 90 days or year.....

I am sure Carpe would accept a dinner on you or MM in case Trump looses. I would too.

[Sparko]

I doubt Trump will make it to 2020 at this rate.

Why do you have an avatar of a moldy peach?

[Cow Poke]

I am sure Carpe would accept a dinner on you or MM in case Trump looses. I would too.

Except that I was not making that offer, oh meddler of everybody else's business.

[carpedm9587]

I doubt Trump will make it to 2020 at this rate.

I hope you are wrong. If he doesn't make it to 2020, that means we have Pence - and Pence has a far better chance of winning in 2020.

[carpedm9587]

I am sure Carpe would accept a dinner on you or MM in case Trump looses. I would too.

[Sea of red]

Look at how many doubted he would make it trough the primary, or to the general election, or through the first 90 days or year.....

Look at the turnover rate: Flynn, Walsh, Porter, Comey, Preibus, Bannon, Hicks, McFarland, Spencer, Scaramucci.

And Sessions, Tillerson, and Rosenstein are possibly not long for this world either, so it's very bad. His presidency is just hanging by a thread. All it's going to take is Mueller finding an impeachable offense, and we'll be talking resignation.

[Cow Poke]

Look at the turnover rate: Flynn, Walsh, Porter, Comey, Preibus, Bannon, Hicks, McFarland, Spencer, Scaramucci.

And Sessions, Tillerson, and Rosenstein are possibly not long for this world either, so it's very bad. His presidency is just hanging by a thread. All it's going to take is Mueller finding an impeachable offense, and we'll be talking resignation.

I doubt resignation - don't you think he'll go screaming and kicking?

[Sea of red]

I doubt resignation - don't you think he'll go screaming and kicking?

Typically, yes.

However, Trump is very concerned about his and Kushner's private business practices coming under Mueller's jurisdiction, and that's exactly what's happening.

Mueller is now asking questions about attempts to obtain financing from Qatar, Russia, and China via the campaign by Kushner. Muller is also looking at the Russian nationals that have been using Trumps hotels to launder money, as well his relationships with Russian mob associates. If Mueller indicts Russians for money laundering and Trumps hotels are one of the hotspots used, it will be very bad PR wise for Trump, and he would likely leave office.

Like it or not, these special investigations end up turning into fishing expeditions -- just like Starr went all over the place with Clinton. They don't stop until they catch some sort of fish, even if it's totally unrelated to the original mandate.

The difference is this probe has serious fish to catch.

[Cow Poke]

Typically, yes.

However, Trump is very concerned about his and Kushner's private business practices coming under Mueller's jurisdiction, and that's exactly what's happening.

Mueller is now asking questions about attempts to obtain financing from Qatar, Russia, and China via the campaign by Kushner. Muller is also looking at the Russian nationals that have been using Trumps hotels to launder money, as well his relationships with Russian mob associates. If Mueller indicts Russians for money laundering and Trumps hotels are one of the hotspots used, it will be very bad PR wise for Trump, and he would likely leave office.

Like it or not, these special investigations end up turning into fishing expeditions -- just like Starr went all over the place with Clinton. They don't stop until they catch some sort of fish, even if it's totally unrelated to the original mandate.

The difference is this probe has serious fish to catch.

And we all know how the Clinton impeachment went, yes?

[carpedm9587]

Typically, yes.

However, Trump is very concerned about his and Kushner's private business practices coming under Mueller's jurisdiction, and that's exactly what's happening.

Mueller is now asking questions about attempts to obtain financing from Qatar, Russia, and China via the campaign by Kushner. Muller is also looking at the Russian nationals that have been using Trumps hotels to launder money, as well his relationships with Russian mob associates. If Mueller indicts Russians for money laundering and Trumps hotels are one of the hotspots used, it will be very bad PR wise for Trump, and he would likely leave office.

Like it or not, these special investigations end up turning into fishing expeditions -- just like Starr went all over the place with Clinton. They don't stop until they catch some sort of fish, even if it's totally unrelated to the original mandate.

The difference is this probe has serious fish to catch.

Unfortunately, impeachment is not a legal proceeding. Even if there is an "impeachable offense," it will be very hard to get the 2/3 (67 votes) required to impeach. It would require a substantial percentage of the Republicans to vote to impeach a president of their own party. Fortunately, I don't see it happening.

[Cow Poke]

Unfortunately, impeachment is not a legal proceeding. Even if there is an "impeachable offense," it will be very hard to get the 2/3 (67 votes) required to impeach. It would require a substantial percentage of the Republicans to vote to impeach a president of their own party. Fortunately, I don't see it happening.

So many people keep getting this wrong. All it takes for somebody at the federal level to be "impeached" is a simple majority vote of those present and voting in the house of representatives. If that happens, the person is "impeached", and the process moves to the Senate. A "conviction" in a trial in the Senate, usually presided over by the Chief Justice, requires the 2/3 of the members present.

Bill Clinton was "impeached" by the House of Representatives, but not "convicted" in the Senate.

[Sea of red]

So many people keep getting this wrong. All it takes for somebody at the federal level to be "impeached" is a simple majority vote of those present and voting in the house of representatives. If that happens, the person is "impeached", and the process moves to the Senate. A "conviction" in a trial in the Senate, usually presided over by the Chief Justice, requires the 2/3 of the members present.

Bill Clinton was "impeached" by the House of Representatives, but not "convicted" in the Senate.

Correct.

Impeachment is akin to an indictment, while a conviction is the Senates job.

[Cow Poke]

Correct.

Impeachment is akin to an indictment, while a conviction is the Senates job.

Yeah, that! And a conviction in the Senate is what triggers the removal from office.

[Sea of red]

And we all know how the Clinton impeachment went, yes?

There's a difference.

Clinton's impeachment was seen by the public as being a political witch hunt orchestrated by the GOP and Starr, and many found Starr to be abusing his investigative powers into absurd jurisdiction.