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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLook at how many doubted he would make it trough the primary, or to the general election, or through the first 90 days or year....."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI am sure Carpe would accept a dinner on you or MM in case Trump looses. I would too.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostI doubt Trump will make it to 2020 at this rate.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Charles View PostI am sure Carpe would accept a dinner on you or MM in case Trump looses. I would too.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostLook at how many doubted he would make it trough the primary, or to the general election, or through the first 90 days or year.....
And Sessions, Tillerson, and Rosenstein are possibly not long for this world either, so it's very bad. His presidency is just hanging by a thread. All it's going to take is Mueller finding an impeachable offense, and we'll be talking resignation.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostLook at the turnover rate: Flynn, Walsh, Porter, Comey, Preibus, Bannon, Hicks, McFarland, Spencer, Scaramucci.
And Sessions, Tillerson, and Rosenstein are possibly not long for this world either, so it's very bad. His presidency is just hanging by a thread. All it's going to take is Mueller finding an impeachable offense, and we'll be talking resignation.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI doubt resignation - don't you think he'll go screaming and kicking?
However, Trump is very concerned about his and Kushner's private business practices coming under Mueller's jurisdiction, and that's exactly what's happening.
Mueller is now asking questions about attempts to obtain financing from Qatar, Russia, and China via the campaign by Kushner. Muller is also looking at the Russian nationals that have been using Trumps hotels to launder money, as well his relationships with Russian mob associates. If Mueller indicts Russians for money laundering and Trumps hotels are one of the hotspots used, it will be very bad PR wise for Trump, and he would likely leave office.
Like it or not, these special investigations end up turning into fishing expeditions -- just like Starr went all over the place with Clinton. They don't stop until they catch some sort of fish, even if it's totally unrelated to the original mandate.
The difference is this probe has serious fish to catch.Last edited by Sea of red; 03-05-2018, 05:27 PM.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostTypically, yes.
However, Trump is very concerned about his and Kushner's private business practices coming under Mueller's jurisdiction, and that's exactly what's happening.
Mueller is now asking questions about attempts to obtain financing from Qatar, Russia, and China via the campaign by Kushner. Muller is also looking at the Russian nationals that have been using Trumps hotels to launder money, as well his relationships with Russian mob associates. If Mueller indicts Russians for money laundering and Trumps hotels are one of the hotspots used, it will be very bad PR wise for Trump, and he would likely leave office.
Like it or not, these special investigations end up turning into fishing expeditions -- just like Starr went all over the place with Clinton. They don't stop until they catch some sort of fish, even if it's totally unrelated to the original mandate.
The difference is this probe has serious fish to catch.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostTypically, yes.
However, Trump is very concerned about his and Kushner's private business practices coming under Mueller's jurisdiction, and that's exactly what's happening.
Mueller is now asking questions about attempts to obtain financing from Qatar, Russia, and China via the campaign by Kushner. Muller is also looking at the Russian nationals that have been using Trumps hotels to launder money, as well his relationships with Russian mob associates. If Mueller indicts Russians for money laundering and Trumps hotels are one of the hotspots used, it will be very bad PR wise for Trump, and he would likely leave office.
Like it or not, these special investigations end up turning into fishing expeditions -- just like Starr went all over the place with Clinton. They don't stop until they catch some sort of fish, even if it's totally unrelated to the original mandate.
The difference is this probe has serious fish to catch.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostUnfortunately, impeachment is not a legal proceeding. Even if there is an "impeachable offense," it will be very hard to get the 2/3 (67 votes) required to impeach. It would require a substantial percentage of the Republicans to vote to impeach a president of their own party. Fortunately, I don't see it happening.
Bill Clinton was "impeached" by the House of Representatives, but not "convicted" in the Senate.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo many people keep getting this wrong. All it takes for somebody at the federal level to be "impeached" is a simple majority vote of those present and voting in the house of representatives. If that happens, the person is "impeached", and the process moves to the Senate. A "conviction" in a trial in the Senate, usually presided over by the Chief Justice, requires the 2/3 of the members present.
Bill Clinton was "impeached" by the House of Representatives, but not "convicted" in the Senate.
Impeachment is akin to an indictment, while a conviction is the Senates job.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostCorrect.
Impeachment is akin to an indictment, while a conviction is the Senates job.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd we all know how the Clinton impeachment went, yes?
Clinton's impeachment was seen by the public as being a political witch hunt orchestrated by the GOP and Starr, and many found Starr to be abusing his investigative powers into absurd jurisdiction.
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