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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOh I have no doubt it's how he would like to govern. He has continually shown admiration for "strong men" governments and it was how me managed his companies. But he has essentially no chance of doing that here. I have to admit, however, when he was first elected, I wasn't sure our systems could withstand the assault. So far, with the exception of the fourth estate, they've held up nicely.
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Originally posted by JimLamebrain View PostYes, but he made some big mistakes which led to the appt. of the special prosecutor.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI stand by my post.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe Democrats have been actively investigating Trump for almost two-years now. It started under Obama, it continued in earnest after Trump won the nomination, and now you have Mueller essentially digging through the Trump family's garbage cans and peering through their windows in the hope of finding something, anything to justify what is by all appearances a colossal waste of taxpayer money. If Trump's political enemies (and I include Mueller and his team in that category) haven't found something by now, the chances of them finding anything at all grow increasingly slim. Too bad Jeff Sessions doesn't have the backbone to put an end to the charade.
Nunes, on the other hand, now there's an investigation that is bearing fruit, and there's more to come.
The investigations in Congress are being led by Republican committees. The special counsel was appointed by a Republican in the DOJ and the special investigator is a Republican. Exactly what investigations have the Democrats been heading?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, but he made some big mistakes which led to the appt. of the special prosecutor. Had that not happened, which is why Trump is furious at Atty Gen, Sessions, I'm not so sure the systems would have held.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI think I am increasingly confident that our system of checks and balances can withstand even so bad a president as Trump. I am more worried that they won't withstand the extensive polarization of the citizenry, and the increasing tendency for our populationm to ignore facts that don't support their pre-existing position. An educated/informed population is the heart of a democracy - and that is being eroded in many ways.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYes, both situations are bad, and the polarization, the tribalism, is worse than I can ever remember, both outside of, but also within government itself, which is why I think some of our democratic institutions need shoring up in order to better protect against wannabe autocrats like Trump. Not only Trump himself, but his party, the republican party, is actually obstructing an investigation and aiding the very foreign nation that attacked our democratic way of governance.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI am more worried that they won't withstand the extensive polarization of the citizenry, and the increasing tendency for our populationm to ignore facts that don't support their pre-existing position. An educated/informed population is the heart of a democracy - and that is being eroded in many ways.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
The investigations in Congress are being led by Republican committees. The special counsel was appointed by a Republican in the DOJ and the special investigator is a Republican. Exactly what investigations have the Democrats been heading?
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostA lot of that was lumped together in the recent indictment of the dozen or so Russian ham sandwiches who will never be extradited and are safely out of Mueller's reach, so what was the point? It's a classic nothing-burger that will go nowhere. And none of it is connected to Trump. The only thing Mueller has on anybody associated with Trump are "process crimes", lying to investigators, which ironically would have never happened if Mueller wasn't charged with this witch hunt.
Funny enough, Trump had his money in the same bank actively used by Russian nationals to launder money obtained via organized crime, using Russian conman and mob associate Felix Sater to run his little scams.
What another incredible coincidence!
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThat is an accusation that can also be made of the Democrats in the Clinton age, and the Republicans in the Nixon age. No party lets its candidate go down without a fight. It's to be expected.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostHe doesn't actually realize any of that because he's so busy foaming at the mouth with Trumpanzee fury, the truth evades him no matter how readily available it is as public knowledge.
Maybe he just didn't see the post....?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by JimL View PostIt may be an accussation that can be made, but it isn't necessarily true. First off the nature of the alledged crime here is a factor that needs be taken into consideration when you say any party would protect their candidate by obstruction, coverup, or just not speaking truth to power. We are talking possible treason here, conspiracy with a foreign adversary to manipulate U.S. democratic elections, something we know the Russians did, for which not a thing has been done in retaliation by this administration. No, I don't think you can say that any party would do that.
Furthermore, given the number of times, and degree to which, the U.S. has injected itself into the internal politics of other countries, it seems a sad hypocritical to complain when the same thing is done to us.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI did notice the crickets....
Maybe he just didn't see the post....?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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