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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAs I said, Jim, the term is tossed around too loosely for my taste.
As to the latter - I did not suggest we should not defend ourselves. My point was mostly that perhaps we should get out of the business if sticking our noses into the business of other countries - and then whining about it when the same is done to us. As a country, we don't really have a moral leg to stand on, IMO.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostOkay, so you don't believe that even if Trump, and or his administration, is guilty of colluding and conspiring with a foreign adversary in order to undermine the democratic process, as well as democratic institutions, it's not an act war on their part, nor an act of treason on the part of the Trump administration. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that, I don't believe that such activity, should it be born out, to be tossing around the term (treason) to lightly.
Originally posted by JimL View PostBut it isn't about whining, its about acknowledging the fact of being attacked, retaliating, and defending ourselves against it in the future, neither of which Trump is doing which is further evidence of his involvement.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Not to worry, though, the Republicans in Congress have apparently wrapped up their investigation and determined that no collusion occurred. I'm SURE their findings are impartial and non-partisan (), but I think I'll wait for the results of the Mueller investigation, myself.
I'm sure that decision will make me "partisan" in the eyes of most here. I find it interesting the Mueller was widely cited by both sides as an ideal, nonpartisan, uncompromisable, ethical law enforcement leader...up until he was given THIS assignment, of course. Then suddenly he was partisan, stacking the deck, and a RINO.
Go figure...The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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And another sign of the incredible strength of our "leader." Trump has apparently signaled that he only wants to back legislation "that can pass." The hallmark of a clear leader: "let me know what you think you guys will pass, and I'll back it!"
Actually - strong leaders tackle even the hard stuff that may not pass - if they truly believe it's the right way to lead the country. Leadership is not a popularity contest; it's about taking people where (sometimes) they aren't sure they want to go.
So much for "I alone can fix it."The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostHe voted for Trump to get his own way on abortion and LGBT's, come what may.
Why don't you go back to falsely accusing your gay buddies of being NAMBLA supporters, then help JimL figure out what a boy is.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI'm a bit surprised that you think it should be that way.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYou're a blithering idiot, Tassy - I have clearly stated it was to block Hillary, from becoming POTUS and making an appointment to SCOTUS.Last edited by Tassman; 03-13-2018, 12:47 AM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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That's pretty much what we saw during the last Administration, from President "Lead-From-Behind"
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostAnd there you go jumping to conclusions AGAIN. I expressed no opinion - I asked a question.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThat's pretty much what we saw during the last Administration, from President "Lead-From-Behind"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostYou're right - you did not. Your response left me with that impression. If it was incorrect, then I apologize.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostA tad sensitive about this are we?
You have several times gloated about the SCOTUS appointment and what it means re the abortion issue and LGBT's.
A) Hillary is not POTUS
2) SCOTUS is not Hillary's
....is "gloating", then you really are a drama queen.
Face it, you and your ilk have lost whatever moral high ground you may once have had by supporting a lying, self acknowledged womaniser and overall charlatan. You have lowered yourself to his level.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMy opinion, not that you asked for it, is that BIG donors - activists - should recuse themselves. I think that's just downright reasonable.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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