Trump's Media Genius

[demi-conservative]

Suuuurre... Rogue. That's exactly what I saw.... (backing away slowly)....

Carpedm sees reality, runs back to Fake News, also latest MediaFactCheckBias site. Sad!

[JimL]

My opinion, not that you asked for it, is that BIG donors - activists - should recuse themselves. I think that's just downright reasonable.

Oh, so now it's BIG donors and activists!

[Zymologist]

Oh, so now it's BIG donors and activists!

I think some leeway should be permitted...say, any donors in excess of 300 lbs?

[Mountain Man]

What carpe said:

And another sign of the incredible strength of our "leader." Trump has apparently signaled that he only wants to back legislation "that can pass."

What the story actually says:

Source: The Washington Post

“He hasn’t backed away from these things at all,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said during a contentious back-and-forth with reporters Monday. “But he can’t make them happen with a broad stroke of the pen. You have to have some congressional component to do some of these things, and without that support, it’s not as possible.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.fde407233e15

© Copyright Original Source

So Trump never "signaled" that he will only back legislation "that can pass" -- in fact, the phrase "that can pass" doesn't even appear in carpe's source even though he put it in quotes to deceptively imply that he was quoting Trump. Rather, the Trump administration acknowledges that the President can't simply take action on his own but has to negotiate with Congress to get legislation passed. This is actually how our system is designed to operate, and Ms. Sanders saying that Trump "can’t make them happen with a broad stroke of the pen" seems like a direct slap at President Barack "I can do anything I want with a pen and a phone" Obama.

Second, why should the President spin his wheels trying to push through pie-in-the-sky legislation that doesn't have a chance in hell of passing when he can negotiate with his legislatures and craft something that won't simply be a waste of everybody's time? This is, in fact, exactly what a leader is supposed to do, he's supposed to drive the process, negotiate with all sides, consider all arguments, and push for something that actually has a good chance of arriving on his desk. It's the exact the opposite of Obama's "Do whatever you want and talk to me afterwards" leading-from-behind approach.

[rogue06]

Suuuurre... Rogue. That's exactly what I saw.... (backing away slowly)....

I'm sure in your case it is oh so obviously nothing but another right wing meme

Look at Obamacare for example. Obama left it up to Pelosi and Reid to do all the work and then send it up to him to sign.

[rogue06]

What carpe said:


What the story actually says:

Source: The Washington Post

“He hasn’t backed away from these things at all,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said during a contentious back-and-forth with reporters Monday. “But he can’t make them happen with a broad stroke of the pen. You have to have some congressional component to do some of these things, and without that support, it’s not as possible.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.fde407233e15

© Copyright Original Source

So Trump never "signaled" that he will only back legislation "that can pass" -- in fact, the phrase "that can pass" doesn't even appear in carpe's source even though he put it in quotes to deceptively imply that he was quoting Trump. Rather, the Trump administration acknowledges that the President can't simply take action on his own but has to negotiate with Congress to get legislation passed. This is actually how our system is designed to operate, and Ms. Sanders saying that Trump "can’t make them happen with a broad stroke of the pen" seems like a direct slap at President Barack "I can do anything I want with a pen and a phone" Obama.

Second, why should the President spin his wheels trying to push through pie-in-the-sky legislation that doesn't have a chance in hell of passing when he can negotiate with his legislatures and craft something that won't simply be a waste of everybody's time? This is, in fact, exactly what a leader is supposed to do, he's supposed to drive the process, negotiate with all sides, consider all arguments, and push for something that actually has a good chance of arriving on his desk. It's the exact the opposite of Obama's "Do whatever you want and talk to me afterwards" leading-from-behind approach.

What? carpe twisting things beyond recognition -- including fabricating fake quotes? Color me surprised.

[rogue06]

I think some leeway should be permitted...say, any donors in excess of 300 lbs?

You're just looking for a sumo exemption aren't you?

[Zymologist]

You're just looking for a sumo exemption aren't you?

Good point...given that my man Ichinojo weighs about 470, I may need to rethink my criterion.

[carpedm9587]

I think some leeway should be permitted...say, any donors in excess of 300 lbs?

You made me snort coffee up my nose....

[carpedm9587]

I'm sure in your case it is oh so obviously nothing but another right wing meme

Yeah - pretty much.

Look at Obamacare for example. Obama left it up to Pelosi and Reid to do all the work and then send it up to him to sign.

Actually, Obama went out and campaigned for it extensively, even mistating the extent to which people would be able tokeep their existing plans/doctors (i.e., he made it too absolute). And he did that at a time when it is far from certain that the plan would pass. The issue wasn't who created it - but rather whether or not the president has the cojones to go out and push for a less than sure thing. Trump appears to be largely unwilling to do so.

Well - except for the candidates he is backing, of course...

[Cow Poke]

Oh, so now it's BIG donors and activists!

I never said otherwise. I simply asked a question.

[Cow Poke]

I think some leeway should be permitted...say, any donors in excess of 300 lbs?

Yeah, BIGLY donors!

[Cow Poke]

You made me snort coffee up my nose....

Coke is better - the fizzy kind.

[carpedm9587]

Coke is better - the fizzy kind.

Did you miss the question about "the line?"

[Cow Poke]

Did you miss the question about "the line?"

Probably so - traveling, and just hopping on and off occasionally.