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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostI'm comfortable maligning propagandists as liars by definition. I am similarly comfortable pointing out that there are no right wing outlets that are not primarily propaganda outlets. I've looked. They're very open about it."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostNo, you're a fork tongued propagandist, like Bill Nye."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Postand the Democrat party isn't as corrupt as you think the Republican Party is. JimL you are a reflection of their corruption But corrupting influence is more subtle they keep their electorialship uninformed about what is happening with the help of their MSM buddies.
Trump has also appointed the largest contingent of dishonest corrupt kleptocrats to his cabinet than I think there has ever been. S. Menuchin has already spent over 1 million dollars of taxpayer money for he and his wife to travel in military aircraft at the cost of $25,000 an hour. That's a million dollars in 9 months. Same with B. Zinky, S. Pruitt, D. Shulkin and of course the already ousted Tom Price. They love to travel on your dime these people. Zinky also spent $139,000 on the renovation of 3 office doors . Ben Carson and his wife just got caught spending $31,000 on a new dining set and office furniture, and Brenda Fitzgerald, Trumps top Health official was just exposed for trading tobacco stocks. But of course the fish rots from the head down, and the biggest crook of all is Trump himself, a great deal of which has long been known, but a great deal more of which you're going to see soon enough.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell lets see, in the last 53 years there have been 25 years of Democrat administrations and 28 years of Republican administrations. In those 25 years under Democratic Presidents, there have been 3 administration officials indicted and 1 convicted, while in the 28 years under Republican administrations 120 administration officials were indicted and 89 were convicted. That of course doesn't count the current Trump administration which the way things are going now he will be padding those Republican numbers by quite a bit.
Trump has also appointed the largest contingent of dishonest corrupt kleptocrats to his cabinet than I think there has ever been. S. Menuchin has already spent over 1 million dollars of taxpayer money for he and his wife to travel in military aircraft at the cost of $25,000 an hour. That's a million dollars in 9 months. Same with B. Zinky, S. Pruitt, D. Shulkin and of course the already ousted Tom Price. They love to travel on your dime these people. Zinky also spent $139,000 on the renovation of 3 office doors . Ben Carson and his wife just got caught spending $31,000 on a new dining set and office furniture, and Brenda Fitzgerald, Trumps top Health official was just exposed for trading tobacco stocks. But of course the fish rots from the head down, and the biggest crook of all is Trump himself, a great deal of which has long been known, but a great deal more of which you're going to see soon enough.
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post
You're wrong about everything as per usual OBP. It frankly amazes me how consistently you manage to accomplish that feat.
FYI, it's been almost a decade since I worked as a computer programmer. I left that job, then published a book on Christian theology, then did a PhD in a science field, and have published a half dozen papers in scientific journals. Life isn't static.
And your assessment of me as non-objective and as arguing from emotion is...
If you accused me of being borderline-autistic, overly rational and unemotional, and as having too much of a rationalistic and objective approach to things like arguments and politics, then you might have a valid point. As usual, you're so completely wrong, it's funny."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'm flattered that you compare my meager public speaking abilities and meager scientific accomplishments to those of Bill Nye.
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Last edited by QuantaFille; 03-16-2018, 12:41 PM.Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostYou can't even definitively define what a boy is OBP, and even if you attempted to it would be an arbitrary definition.
Do we need to get ready tar and feather, also stones, also stake for burning???Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI'm flattered that you compare my meager public speaking abilities and meager scientific accomplishments to those of Bill Nye."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by JimL View PostWell lets see, in the last 53 years there have been 25 years of Democrat administrations and 28 years of Republican administrations. In those 25 years under Democratic Presidents, there have been 3 administration officials indicted and 1 convicted, while in the 28 years under Republican administrations 120 administration officials were indicted and 89 were convicted. That of course doesn't count the current Trump administration which the way things are going now he will be padding those Republican numbers by quite a bit.
Trump has also appointed the largest contingent of dishonest corrupt kleptocrats to his cabinet than I think there has ever been. S. Menuchin has already spent over 1 million dollars of taxpayer money for he and his wife to travel in military aircraft at the cost of $25,000 an hour. That's a million dollars in 9 months. Same with B. Zinky, S. Pruitt, D. Shulkin and of course the already ousted Tom Price. They love to travel on your dime these people. Zinky also spent $139,000 on the renovation of 3 office doors . Ben Carson and his wife just got caught spending $31,000 on a new dining set and office furniture, and Brenda Fitzgerald, Trumps top Health official was just exposed for trading tobacco stocks. But of course the fish rots from the head down, and the biggest crook of all is Trump himself, a great deal of which has long been known, but a great deal more of which you're going to see soon enough."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSparko,
Let's say the student in the OP had written the following:
I'm a "problem student". I express my own viewpoints vigorously in the classroom environment, even when I haven't been asked to. Various professors find this behavior "disruptive". Several of them have also told me they have concerns about the content of the views I express, saying it seems to be "sexist" or "racist". I have been accused of offending and upsetting other students in the classes by what I say.
I don't see the classroom environment as a 'learning environment' in the traditional sense where the teacher teaches and the students learn. I see it as an arena for the combat of ideas and worldviews. I see myself as being on the side of conservatism and Christianity. I see the authorities as being on the side of progressivism and secularism. It is their worldview against mine, and so I put forth my ideas forcefully. Some lecturers have described this as "angry outbursts" and "disruptive".
Most recently I have been banned from a class for this pending a disciplinary hearing by a panel of students and teachers at the educational institution I attend. I view this as a suppression of my first amendment rights to free speech. My rights to forthrightly speak my mind and express my views as I see fit in the classroom environment trump the other students rights to be able to learn from the teacher and have a pleasant learning environment.
I think what's really going on is that the progressive and secular establishment are out to get me because they just can't cope with their viewpoints being critiqued. My compelling arguments for my viewpoints are just so convincing and powerful that they fear me speaking up because it would undo their brainwashing of the other students.
In my view the above would constitute an accurate and honest description of the student's situation.
If the student had written that, would it change your opinion of the situation? I don't see this as a case of anything more or less than a disruptive student is causing problems in class and is having escalating disciplinary procedures taken against him as a result. You seem to see it as some sort of speech-suppression of conservative views. Can you explain why you see it that way rather than as a mundane dealing with behavioral issues?
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post
You're wrong about everything as per usual OBP. It frankly amazes me how consistently you manage to accomplish that feat.
FYI, it's been almost a decade since I worked as a computer programmer. I left that job, then published a book on Christian theology, then did a PhD in a science field, and have published a half dozen papers in scientific journals. Life isn't static.
And your assessment of me as non-objective and as arguing from emotion is...
If you accused me of being borderline-autistic, overly rational and unemotional, and as having too much of a rationalistic and objective approach to things like arguments and politics, then you might have a valid point. As usual, you're so completely wrong, it's funny.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostFYI, it's been almost a decade since I worked as a computer programmer. I left that job, then published a book on Christian theology, then did a PhD in a science field, and have published a half dozen papers in scientific journals. Life isn't static.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostThe only thing Bill Nye did was get a gig on a TV show.
To be fair to Nye, he is an engineer (although not a scientist) who, while working for Boeing, invented a hydraulic resonance suppressor tube that is used on their 747 airplanes.Last edited by rogue06; 03-16-2018, 07:58 AM.
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