Atheists. Please Get The Argument Right

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Well, you can always assert that a god can do anything, he can even create something out of nothing, but such an assertion is hardly a convincing argument, nor is there any reason one should believe it.

You are being absurd. God cannot do anything contrary to being God.

[JimL]

You are being absurd. God cannot do anything contrary to being God.

Which to you means that god can do anything that supports your contention of god. Most people would generally agree that nothing comes from nothing, but in order for your god to be a reality you have to accept that the effect needn't be in its cause, that something can come from nothing.

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Which to you means that god can do anything that supports your contention of god. Most people would generally agree that nothing comes from nothing, but in order for your god to be a reality you have to accept that the effect needn't be in its cause, that something can come from nothing.

Nothing comes from nothing. God creates from nothing with His infinite power. God's infinite power is not nothing.

BTW nothing, that is nothingness never exists. And God is not caused. But is the uncaused cause.

[JimL]

Nothing comes from nothing. God creates from nothing with His infinite power. God's infinite power is not nothing.

BTW nothing, that is nothingness never exists. And God is not caused. But is the uncaused cause.

If god creates from nothing, then something is coming from nothing. And, simply stating ones beliefs is not a sound argument.

[37818]

If god creates from nothing, then something is coming from nothing. And, simply stating ones beliefs is not a sound argument.

God creates from His infinite power what has not existed before (was not anything before - that it was nothing). Heaven and earth is in evidence (Genesis 1:1).

[JimL]

God creates from His infinite power what has not existed before (was not anything before - that it was nothing). Heaven and earth is in evidence (Genesis 1:1).

Simply stating ones belief is not a sound argument. The only evidence we have is that what ever begins to exist is of the same nature as that of its cause. In other words, what ever begins to exist doesn't come from nothing, isn't created out of nothing.