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Originally posted by Sparko View PostParading kids around as political pawns is pretty loathsome.
fwiw,
guacamole"Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostIt's a common conservative meme that grown ups are using kids--and I'm not saying that doesn't happen--but not every instance here is one of adults using kids. There's some genuine fear and rage among these children. They will be able to vote, at some point, and it's possible that the conservatives are losing future voters. I think this is just one more step in hastening the conservative demographic suicide.
fwiw,
guacamole
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Good!
New Jersey school district plans on punishing students who participated in walkouts: report
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-wa...o-participatedAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostGood!
New Jersey school district plans on punishing students who participated in walkouts: report
http://thehill.com/homenews/state-wa...o-participatedSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI suspect they will be hailed by the left as martyrs for the "cause"."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostOh I do believe these kids are indeed scared. And I think some adults are taking advantage of that fear and using it to "guide" the children's responses by suggesting things they should do, like "walk-outs" and protests. Then they organize these protests and rope the kids into it and parade them around as political pawns to try to shame their political opponents into submission. "look at these poor frightened and angry kids! How dare you not ban guns? Don't you want to keep our children safe?" and so on.
The protest wasn't so much agitation for any particular action so much as agitation for change. I don't require students to have a solution in hand to justify their protest. We don't require babies to explain why they're crying. Standing behind posters of 17 dead from a community 30 miles away makes a powerful point. This is unacceptable.
This needs to change.
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostOn my campus, the protest was facilitated by two faculty members, the other Jesse and a music instructor, but it was organized by student government. The administration helped out by granting their requests for space and facility support, but it didn't cost anything. The A/V folks were on the clock anyway.
The protest wasn't so much agitation for any particular action so much as agitation for change. I don't require students to have a solution in hand to justify their protest. We don't require babies to explain why they're crying. Standing behind posters of 17 dead from a community 30 miles away makes a powerful point. This is unacceptable.
This needs to change.
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostOur instructions were to coordinate with another teacher who had less than 50% walk out. How we were supposed to do that, at the literal last second, and what other teachers were supposed to do with the extra kids is unclear.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostI imagine most school districts are giving consequences for the walkout, if for no other reason than they don't want to give students any way to wiggle out of consequences for cutting classes on any other day.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostIt's a common conservative meme that grown ups are using kids--and I'm not saying that doesn't happen--but not every instance here is one of adults using kids. There's some genuine fear and rage among these children. They will be able to vote, at some point, and it's possible that the conservatives are losing future voters. I think this is just one more step in hastening the conservative demographic suicide.
fwiw,
guacamole"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostOn my campus, the protest was facilitated by two faculty members, the other Jesse and a music instructor, but it was organized by student government. The administration helped out by granting their requests for space and facility support, but it didn't cost anything. The A/V folks were on the clock anyway.
The protest wasn't so much agitation for any particular action so much as agitation for change. I don't require students to have a solution in hand to justify their protest. We don't require babies to explain why they're crying. Standing behind posters of 17 dead from a community 30 miles away makes a powerful point. This is unacceptable.
This needs to change."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostUnfortunately that was just the sort of chaos and confusion I suspected would result.
Originally posted by rogueMany of the supporters of the walk-out are claiming it is a teachable moment, which I find hard to disagree with. But, one lesson that ought to go with it is that often being willing to take a stand comes with consequences, which would in this case be what usually happens when a student cuts class."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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The last sentence is one of the things I'm concerned about. I don't think I'm too far off asserting that most school districts will only allow their students to protest for politically correct or liberal causes. Imagine, for instance, the reaction if an illegal alien killed someone that lived near a school in a "sanctuary city" and the students wanted to protest. Can you even envision a school permitting that?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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