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“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostYou are too cynical. British colonialism ended because the colonial nations demanded independence and self-rule. It was given to them with good grace by the British government, because it recognised it did not have the power or financial resources to retain them. But the many of the former colonies amalgamated as The Commonwealth of Nations, which is an intergovernmental organisation of over 50 member states, comprising former territories of the British Empire. And many, such as Canada, Australia and NZ, retain the British monarch as their head of state. E.g. the queen’s official title in Australia is Queen of Australia. The resultant parliamentary system under a purely constitutional monarch provides a level of stability that simply doesn't exist in the USA.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostAnd yet you never seem to learn from them, and instead you just repeat your easily disprovable falsehoods over and over again...
...Like this utterly absurd claim. Who on earth would Europe fall to? The European nations have economies and militaries vastly exceeding any others except China. China would be their only serious challenge and it's on the opposite side of the world so is not a military threat.
A hundred and fifty years ago back when the US was isolationist in its foreign policies, the European nations ruled the world. Britain was the empire on which the sun never set because there were lands under its control all around the world, and the European powers divided up the entirety of Africa between them. They don't do that now only because they decided colonialism was a bad thing, not because they can't do it or don't have the power to do it.
Fall to who? Your delusional fantasy world is fascinating.
Europe is already falling to muslim immigrants who are moving in en masse. And what comes with that? muslim extremism, bombs, being run over by trucks and vans. And that doesn't even involve the military. And where do you think europe's military get most of their military weapons and equipment?
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSpeaking of isolationalism... You are one of the most isolated people on tweb. Totally clueless about the world but think you are an expert. I guess because you can google charts.
Europe is already falling to muslim immigrants who are moving in en masse. And what comes with that? muslim extremism, bombs, being run over by trucks and vans. And that doesn't even involve the military. And where do you think europe's military get most of their military weapons and equipment?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostUmm...while Europe is struggling to deal with the refugees from war-torn muslim countries, I see no sign that it is "falling." And while there has been an uptick in terrorist acts in the past decade, it is not clear that any of that is related to the incoming refugees. There's a lot of fear mongering in this post, Sparko....
Here are some stats and information:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36882445
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...r-experts-warn
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostAnd where do you think europe's military get most of their military weapons and equipment?Last edited by Roy; 03-22-2018, 11:26 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View Post
And don't forget American bases all over Europe and the UK. Even though they are trying to close a lot of them (bad idea)
Europe depends on NATO and the Atlantic Resolve to bolster their defense. They can't even put together a united European army.
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostThis is a bit too broad. IIRC, the "good grace" was primarily shown to countries primarily populated by white people (Canada, Audtralia, NZ, etc.), and those are the countries that retain th elink to the British Crown. India was not abandoned "with good grace," nor were many (most?) of the African colonies. Things were more mixed in the far east.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States...n_Elizabeth_II“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post"Good grace" as opposed to going to war to retain the colonies in the face of their demands for independence is what I mean (America obviously being a major exception). Perhaps there were some other exceptions I can't recall off hand. And, actually, there are a lot of non-white Commonwealth countries that have retained the link to the crown:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States...n_Elizabeth_IIThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas
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Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostOk - if "graciousness" is being measured as the lack of war, then I have to agree with the former post. It is an odd use of "graciousness," given the abuses the British visited on countries like India.
However, you did edumacate me on the realms of Britain. I had no idea they were so numerous - and I definitely had a wrong perception about white vs. non-white countries.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Roy View Post"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI wasn’t aware that the Army was the only service that exist in European militaries.I also thought it took more than vehicles and guns to win a war.
So buzz off, troll.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostAFAIK the situation is no different for navies and air forces - and you haven't shown otherwise.
It does - but since the reference I supplied also included body armour, comms equipment, boots, packs, respirators and thermal imaging systems, any point you think you are making is already refuted in advance.
So buzz off, troll."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAround 1/3rd of the RAF’s fixed wing aircraft are US built.
Thank you for helping prove Sparko wrong.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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