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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostI'm disappointed that this thread isn't about flying rivers of gore.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'm not a global warming denier, . . .Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostI am not a denier either, but with all of Gore's hypocrisy I sometimes wish I could deny the climate thing.
Al Gore didn't invent the internet, but going solely off his latest film, viewers might assume he singlehandedly launched the modern fight against climate change. An Inconvenient Sequel, directed by Bonni Cohen and Jon Shenk, and starting a limited American theatrical run on July 28th, is a follow-up to the 2006 documentary An Inconvenient Truth. The original film mobilized a generation of climate activists, won an Oscar, and sent the former vice president on a decade-long-and-counting PowerPoint tour. The newer, brisker, and unexpectedly more optimistic follow-up doc seeks, in large part, to calcify Gore’s legacy, resulting in a split-minded film that’s more fascinated with the former politician’s daily life than the melting polar ice sheets.
sourceThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNo he hasn't.
He's gotten filthy rich.
Usually I'm the one who's arguing that not all ways of gaining wealth are equal and that there are plenty of bad and nasty ways of becoming rich. If I was to write out all the kinds of ways of making money that I thought were immoral, telling people about the dangers of climate change wouldn't make the top 1000 - it wouldn't even make the list at all.
It's... puzzling... to see you guys suddenly all apparently concerned about the fact that Al Gore has made his money in the 'wrong' way."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIs wealth bad now?
Usually you guys seem to love wealth and greed,
and tend to hold to what I perceive as a disgustingly immoral US conservative idea of equating wealth with positive moral qualities.
Usually I'm the one who's arguing that not all ways of gaining wealth are equal and that there are plenty of bad and nasty ways of becoming rich. If I was to write out all the kinds of ways of making money that I thought were immoral, telling people about the dangers of climate change wouldn't make the top 1000 - it wouldn't even make the list at all.
It's... puzzling... to see you guys suddenly all apparently concerned about the fact that Al Gore has made his money in the 'wrong' way.
But do keep trying!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostObviously, you have zero understanding of the whole Gore mess.
Why don't you tell me about him, and tell me why you guys are so obsessed with him?"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostOther than knowing that he should have been US President in 2000...
An Inconvenient Sequel is a superhero movie about a sad Al Gore
is it good?
As a call to recruit and energize a new generation of environmentalists, no, it's not good. Al Gore travels across the globe, educating trainees, who we barely get to know. And what exactly Gore trains these men and women to do, beyond monologue in public spaces, is unclear.
The film doesn't offer any surprising updates on global warming for a pseudo-woke teen with a social-media stream. Nor does it lay out actionable strategies for viewers who could be persuaded to change their habits, but don't know how. In that way, it's a missed opportunity for Gore and his multi-decade agenda. An Inconvenient Truth formed the choir, and it’s inexplicable that this sequel makes no effort to teach that choir to sing.
However, as a documentary about the loneliness of would-be-President Gore, An Inconvenient Sequel is awkwardly engrossing. Gore’s loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 election, in particular, is grist for the film's few jokes. At one point, Gore invites the cameras into his home, and they capture a man alone in an empty house, musing over photographs and notes from a different life. Gore seems peerless in his battle against global warming, for better and also for worse. In his personal and professional life, he appears deeply and tragically alone — often literally stranded in the film’s composition.
An Inconvenient Sequel often plays out like a tragic superhero film. Gore is depicted as a one-man army, fighting the good fight against impossible odds. Other politicians, from Obama to John Kerry to Justin Trudeau, drift into the film, lending their support. But Gore, as the film shows it, is the one with the ideas, the gumption, and the connections to grease the wheels of change.
But what happens when Superman saves the day? One shot resonates far beyond the movie. After helping secure 2015’s historic Paris Climate Conference agreement with some last-minute behind-the-scenes horse-trading, we see Gore among the crowd of celebrating world leaders. And then we see him alone again, wandering down a fluorescent-lit hallway. He moves away from the camera like an old cowboy riding into the sunset, his legs heavy, his back achy. In the moment of international achievement, we see him by himself.
As with any good superhero, we have reason to believe Gore will return. A gloomy coda on the election of Donald Trump threatens to undermine the hero’s work and throw the world into disarray. The film takes an Marvel-esque approach to Gore’s latest adversary, smattering skeptical quotes from Trump throughout the film, culminating with an uncomfortable shot of Gore visiting Trump Tower for an un-filmed meeting.
Perhaps we’ll see Gore put the cape back on for An Inconvenient Threequel: The Rise of the Donald.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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So the guy made a silly/poor film? There are about a million other people in the world who have made bad films. I don't see you getting upset about them..."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSo the guy made a silly/poor film? There are about a million other people in the world who have made bad films. I don't see you getting upset about them...The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Tuesday is the vernal equinox. Huzzah!“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSo the guy made a silly/poor film? There are about a million other people in the world who have made bad films. I don't see you getting upset about them...Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostOther than knowing that he should have been US President in 2000, and that the conservative dominated SCOTUS did one of their worst-ever rulings to cheat in the election... I know very little about Al Gore beyond the basics.
Why don't you tell me about him, and tell me why you guys are so obsessed with him?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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