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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostHow many pedestrians have been hit and killed by human drivers in the time since this incident I wonder?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by guacamole View PostThe uprising has begun. It was never the beta males that we had to fear.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Zymologist View PostHave you ever seen a documentary called Idiocracy?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostOf course the legal framework is going to be one of the biggest issues with driverless cars.
Who would want to drive a car knowing that your car would put other people's lives above it's own passengers for instance?
I genuinely struggle to take you seriously with regard to your claim that the question of who to kill will be some sort of big dilemma. The programming can be very simple:
IF UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT DETECTED:
APPLY MAXIMUM BREAKING; DEPLOY AIRBAGS.
Zero "moral decisions" need be made.
And if a car does kill someone, who gets the blame? The car manufacturer? The programmer? The owner of the car? Nobody?
You watch, this issue will be the most important going forward."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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It’ll be very interesting. I predict when driverless cars become a thing, it’ll be very hard to find someone to blame and prosecute. Same as the Grenfell Tower fire last year- there will be enough different companies involved, and little political willpower to do anything, which will leave victims helpless with regards to any sort of justice. The laws will be deliberately vague in that respect.
With regards to the impossible situations brought up earlier, Starlight’s answer above is the most likely answer- brake hard & hope for the best. Same as any of us would do if presented with a similar situation I imagine.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI genuinely struggle to take you seriously with regard to your claim that the question of who to kill will be some sort of big dilemma. The programming can be very simple:
IF UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT DETECTED:
APPLY MAXIMUM BREAKING; DEPLOY AIRBAGS.
Zero "moral decisions" need be made.
Granted, I don't think such events are particularly likely to occur, but it's something worth considering.
No, it won't. I predict it will be virtually never mentioned.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostProof that AI doesn't have to be smart to take over the world."Down in the lowlands, where the water is deep,
Hear my cry, hear my shout,
Save me, save me"
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI agree that who is legally liable for those accidents that do occur will be a big and interesting issue.
An altruistic person?
I genuinely struggle to take you seriously with regard to your claim that the question of who to kill will be some sort of big dilemma. The programming can be very simple:
IF UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT DETECTED:
APPLY MAXIMUM BREAKING; DEPLOY AIRBAGS.
Zero "moral decisions" need be made.
That is a more interesting legal issue.
No, it won't. I predict it will be virtually never mentioned.
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It seems the car may not have been at fault. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the woman abruptly jay-walked across a darkened roadway.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...e-12765481.phpSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt seems the car may not have been at fault. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the woman abruptly jay-walked across a darkened roadway.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...e-12765481.phpThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostUber self-driving car kills Arizona woman
Self driving vehicles - what could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Watch for litigation city.
SAN FRANCISCO — An Uber self-driving car hit and killed a woman in Tempe, Ariz., Sunday night, according to media reports.
The Uber car was in self-driving mode when the accident occurred, but had a safety driver at the wheel as is the norm when testing autonomous vehicles.
The woman, who has not been named, was crossing outside the designated crosswalk at about 10 p.m. when she was hit, police said.
Sgt. Ronald Elcock, a Tempe police spokesman, confirmed to the USA TODAY Network that the car was in autonomous mode with a driver behind the wheel when it hit the pedestrian. There were no passengers in the car at the time.
Uber issued a statement saying that it was "fully cooperating with local authorities." The ride-hailing company has temporarily halted its self-driving tests in wake of the incident in Pittsburgh, San Francisco and Toronto, as is its policy following any accident."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostIt seems the car may not have been at fault. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, the woman abruptly jay-walked across a darkened roadway.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...e-12765481.php"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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