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  • #46
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    OK, I was pretty sure it was a national effort.
    Used to do that here, too.

    Until it became wrong to do so.

    Even though some schools in Ontario are emptied out at noon for the Muslim students to have prayer in the cafeteria.

    Dear Lord, please come soon.


    Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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    • #47
      Sneak veneration of the flag? Insidious? I could understand a national day for prayer in churches and synagogues, but flag poles!?
      The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

      [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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      • #48
        It was a place for students to gather outside of the school building.


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        • #49
          Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post
          Sneak veneration of the flag? Insidious? I could understand a national day for prayer in churches and synagogues, but flag poles!?
          Not sure if you're being facetious or not... it was a gathering place, and as long as it was "student led", it was OK for people to gather at the flag pole for prayer. The flag pole was simply an easy "reference point", because every school has one.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            National Day of Prayer -- "See You At The Pole" -- maybe a regional thing? Folks from the community gather at the flag pole at the local school to have a prayer service.

            I just kinda threw that in there.
            They did the See you At the Pole at all the Schools in NC too. News used to report on it. I did it when I was in Public School.
            A happy family is but an earlier heaven.
            George Bernard Shaw

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            • #51
              Even in Alaska it is done. I was never in school in Alaska however.
              Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                I have a hard time believing that the greater majority of people don't understand that Westboro was extremist.
                I try to spend sometime reading on-line articles about Christian events from non-Christian sources and then read the comments. The vitriol thrown at Christians as being the source of all evil is eye opening. Maybe the great majority understand but there is an increasingly vocal minority that does. And the US is increasingly becoming a country where the minority enforces their rules on the majority.

                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                Interesting. I have to admit I have a rather "Texas" perspective on it, and we're still allowed to pray at high school football games, graduations, and school flag poles.

                It may take some time!
                Awhile back I read the book Citizens about the French Revolution. One of my take away from the book was your physical location made a difference on how the revolution affected you. I feel I am living very close to ground zero when it starts.

                As an aside, the flag pole is still done (somewhat) up here. I did it one year at work.
                Last edited by Thoughtful Monk; 04-27-2014, 03:21 PM. Reason: Fix spelling. Thanks Truthseeker
                "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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                • #53
                  "Virtual"? "Vitriol," perhaps.
                  The greater number of laws . . . , the more thieves . . . there will be. ---- Lao-Tzu

                  [T]he truth I’m after and the truth never harmed anyone. What harms us is to persist in self-deceit and ignorance -— Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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