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Right, because Trump is doing things we like...Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Yeah - that's the usual response...Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Obama made it clear when he issued that EO that he was doing it solely because Congress was not acting, and he felt the alternative was unacceptable. In other words, he felt the best solution would have been Congressional action. Second best was an EO. Third best was doing nothing at all.Originally posted by Sparko View Post
And apparently it has a certain amount of legal weight, because Trump was recently ordered to preserve DACA until Congress acts.The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Well THAT's refreshingly honest.Originally posted by seer View Post
Interestingly, Obama was doing many things I liked...so go figure...
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Trump has been using the EO for the same reasons. He can't get congress to do anything.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
Of course EOs have legal weight.
And Trump has been trying to get congress to act on DACA too. They won't. they are holding it hostage to get what they want from Trump.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
So Trump is using EOs for the same reasons that Obama was using EOs, is issuing more of them than Obama, but somehow when the issue of presidential power comes up, Obama's use of EOs is highlighted and Trump's is not?
Do you find this an unbiased view?The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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We always give our guy the benefit of the doubt...Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostWell THAT's refreshingly honest.
Interestingly, Obama was doing many things I liked...so go figure...Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3sComment
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I didn't complain about Obama's use of EOs. I just pointed out that he overused his presidential power just like you accused Trump of doing.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
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Ahh... I see. It was a "what about..." post...Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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Oh I know THAT. It's just unusual to have someone admit of being partisan in that process.Originally posted by seer View PostThe ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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I hate when people claim not to be partisan when they obviously are.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3sComment
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Who claimed to not be partisan?Originally posted by seer View Post
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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I can attest to that...Originally posted by Sparko View Post
The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick DouglasComment
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I don't even like partisan cheese. it's too crumbly.Originally posted by carpedm9587 View PostI can attest to that...
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No you are a pirate - that is different!Originally posted by Sparko View PostAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3sComment
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