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Repeal and replace the second amendment with what exactly?
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Last edited by KingsGambit; 04-17-2018, 04:43 PM."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostHe's just being himself like most of us were at that age. I'm far less concerned about anything he says than I am at how he and Emma Gonzales have been treated. One person made a video on YouTube of himself taking target practice at a cutout of Hogg. https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...s-is-the-video This and the example of Ted Nugent I mentioned earlier suggest to me that the gun rights lobby has a serious rage problem among its ranks to address.sigpic
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Originally posted by TheWall View PostAnd what of hogg calling gun owners murderers with blood on their hands? Again i lnow this is just a you to but that isnt my argument. My arguement is for all the talk of new rules and reasonable control i see very little actual plans except cosmetic bans. As for nugent I think he is hurting his own case."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostBut again, I bring up Nugent because he is a board member of the NRA, which is the primary force in arguing for gun rights. He literally represents the NRA. You mentioned NRA programs earlier and I'm explaining why I want the NRA to have nothing to do with any solutions.sigpic
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Originally posted by TheWall View PostI think i see your point. Nugent in acting this way is making the NRA seem foolish. So if they are not to be involved who will be?"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostWe're right because we have fewer jerks?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI think we need level headed gun owners to step up and be a voice. It's the crazy ones who like to speak up (like a guy I work with who wears a "no lives matter" shirt and talks about how in a disaster he would target liberals because he doesn't think they're be armed) but the level headed ones who don't obsess over it tend to be quiet. I think the non-crazy ones are in the majority, just not vocal.
1. Far to many are paranoid on both sides. Many dont know gun laws and have never fired a gun.
2. The comparisons to mass murderers is getting absurd.
3. It is easy to see people as roadblocks to be removed tham people made in the image of God.sigpic
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostBut again, I bring up Nugent because he is a board member of the NRA, which is the primary force in arguing for gun rights. He literally represents the NRA. You mentioned NRA programs earlier and I'm explaining why I want the NRA to have nothing to do with any solutions.
That said, yeah, I wish he would shut the heck up. But, he's pandering to his audience. ALL organizations have a fringe element, and usually, there is someone who appeals to that fringe. Nothing Nugent says is being taken seriously by those of us who are serious about the issue...as those of you who are hearing some of the things being said by Hogg et. al. are not taking them seriously either. Unfortunately, inflammatory speech on one side begets inflammatory speech on the other side."What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer
"... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen
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Originally posted by Littlejoe View PostNugent doesn't speak for the NRA or for them."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostHe's just being himself like most of us were at that age. I'm far less concerned about anything he says than I am at how he and Emma Gonzales have been treated. One person made a video on YouTube of himself taking target practice at a cutout of Hogg. https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/0...s-is-the-video This and the example of Ted Nugent I mentioned earlier suggest to me that the gun rights lobby has a serious rage problem among its ranks to address.
Yeah, that!!!!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMore of for someone living in a glass house they oughta know better than start throwing rocks.
*don't mind us - it's an in joke. The flame war won't start until he starts posting those videos - he knows which ones!
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
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Originally posted by TheWall View PostAnd what of hogg calling gun owners murderers with blood on their hands? Again i lnow this is just a you to but that isnt my argument. My arguement is for all the talk of new rules and reasonable control i see very little actual plans except cosmetic bans. As for nugent I think he is hurting his own case."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
My Personal Blog
My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)
Quill Sword
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Originally posted by TheWall View PostIf he is a kid why does he expect to be treated as an adult?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
"Forgiveness is the way of love." Gary Chapman
My Personal Blog
My Novella blog (Current Novella Begins on 7/25/14)
Quill Sword
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Hogg is an adult.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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