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I agree with Elon Musk on this.
His comments are... interesting... in the context that he owns a car company that makes computer-driven cars that he wishes us to trust with our lives to drive us around safely."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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I don't believe AI will ever become self-aware, so I have no fear of a Skynet scenario. I'm less concerned about the computers themselves than I am the men who control them.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Worth pointing out that Elon Musk has said that he thinks there is a "one in billions" chance that the world as we know it is real and that reality as we know it is almost certainly a computer simulation.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI agree with Elon Musk on this.
His comments are... interesting... in the context that he owns a car company that makes computer-driven cars that he wishes us to trust with our lives to drive us around safely.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI don't believe AI will ever become self-aware, so I have no fear of a Skynet scenario. I'm less concerned about the computers themselves than I am the men who control them.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostWorth pointing out that Elon Musk has said that he thinks there is a "one in billions" chance that the world as we know it is real and that reality as we know it is almost certainly a computer simulation."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by lao tzu View PostGeislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Well if we are living in a simulation that means that this "universe" had an intelligent designer and that theists are more right than atheists. And probably YECs are more right than anyone since the entire past is simulated and could have never even took place even in the simulation. They could have just booted us up 10 minutes ago with the entire "past" in place.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostWell if we are living in a simulation that means that this "universe" had an intelligent designer and that theists are more right than atheists. And probably YECs are more right than anyone since the entire past is simulated and could have never even took place even in the simulation. They could have just booted us up 10 minutes ago with the entire "past" in place.
If you claim what we experience as reality could be simulated then it seems to follow that the situation in which we find out it is a simulation would or could also be a simulation. It seems you get trapped in that logic and thus would seemingly never be able to find any evidence to support it since even the evidence could be simulated. Or?
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIf the designer was intelligent but not God then what would that help the theist? If the universe is simulated what do you even mean by the statement that theists would be more right? More right thoughts are induced to their minds, or are they having real thoughts in the simulation?
If you claim what we experience as reality could be simulated then it seems to follow that the situation in which we find out it is a simulation would or could also be a simulation. It seems you get trapped in that logic and thus would seemingly never be able to find any evidence to support it since even the evidence could be simulated. Or?
Atheists also like to argue that the universe is 14 billion years old. Well if this is a simulation, that argument flies out the window. It could be 10 minutes old and all of the "evidence" is just programmed into the simulation at the onset. Or God could have created the universe in 7 days and the "evidence" of an old universe is just "programmed" into the initial conditions.
Functionally, these "programmers" of the simulation, and "God" and his creation are pretty much the same. If you accept that this is a simulation then you have no excuse to NOT believe in God, because either these programmers programmed in religion and evidence for God, or God actually exists and revealed himself to mankind.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThe problem, Chuck, is that the atheists say there is no evidence that this universe was created by an intelligent agent. Yet they willingly accept the idea that it WAS created by one when they claim that this could be a simulation and use various argument to support that belief. So if there IS evidence that this is a simulation of some kind, then that evidence is just as valid for theists, because you don't know what the nature of the "simulation" is or who created it.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostAtheists also like to argue that the universe is 14 billion years old. Well if this is a simulation, that argument flies out the window. It could be 10 minutes old and all of the "evidence" is just programmed into the simulation at the onset. Or God could have created the universe in 7 days and the "evidence" of an old universe is just "programmed" into the initial conditions.
1 In the beginning (10 minutes ago) was the Word, and the Word was with God (10 minutes ago), and the Word was God (10 minutes ago). 2 He was with God in the beginning (10 minutes ago). 3 Through him all things were made (10 minutes ago); without him nothing was made that has been made (10 minutes ago).Originally posted by Sparko View PostFunctionally, these "programmers" of the simulation, and "God" and his creation are pretty much the same. If you accept that this is a simulation then you have no excuse to NOT believe in God, because either these programmers programmed in religion and evidence for God, or God actually exists and revealed himself to mankind.
And how do you know the programmer is "the last level" of the simulation. Could there be a programmer behind the programmer and so on? In that case we would not know if we believed the real God or someone a couple of levels before the ultimate creator.
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