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"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI just hate it when you're SO right!βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Meanwhile, studies show that eyewitness identifications are wrong about half the time. That is, the eyewitness either picks the wrong person out of the lineup when the actual suspect is there, or picks someone out when the suspect isn't in the lineup at all. Half the time.
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I reviewed the article and a few other sources and concluded that fingerprint technology is still valid. The language of the degree of reliability using terms like 'impossible' and 'improbable' to describe the problem lack some specifics as to the nature of the problem in all human affairs and that is the fallibility of human judgment and the application of technology. Yes, there is a problem of evaluating very similar finger prints, but there is a lacking of specifics in the article where it has not been determined how often wrongful identities have effected legal cases. Where one of the most problematic issues of identity, eyewitness testimony, is a major issue and well documented that it is common where the wrong person has been convicted based 'eye witness' testimony not only as a matter of identity, but also the accurate recollection of events. The technology is available to evaluate fingerprints on a micro scale, and remove human error from the judgment process, which will likely eliminate the problem of errors in fingerprint identification.
The article on snow flakes does not address one issue, difference on the molecular scale between the two snow flakes. Snow flakes form around a dust particle, and it is very very unlikely that any two dust particles are the same. On a larger scale many things may look alike, but no they are not alike.
The bottom line is that there are many things that may be considered possible, but, 'What is the probability that they may occur?'Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-11-2014, 06:55 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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There are some cases where fingerprint evidence is ambiguous or unusable, therefore all fingerprint evidence is worthless.
There are a few questions in historical geology that haven't been answered or are unanswerable, therefore all of historical geology is worthless "historical science".
Epistemological Nihilism.
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Originally posted by klaus54 View PostOh, and NCIS stinks since Ziva left.
K54The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by klaus54 View PostNot at all. Bad fit. Cute, wimpy, and whiny. Ziva had only one of those characteristics.βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostI've only watched the show several times a couple of years ago (didn't even know she was gone), but you make some excellent points about Ziva.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostShe is OK but the bad blonde hair dye job with thick black eyebrows is kinda distracting.Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
1 Corinthians 16:13
"...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostUmmm I went to school with a chap whose hair was naturally white blonde and his eyebrows were naturally thick and black.
here she is as a brunette:
and as a blonde on ncis:
I think she looks better with dark hair.
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Originally posted by Raphael View PostUmmm I went to school with a chap whose hair was naturally white blonde and his eyebrows were naturally thick and black.
Sorry, couldn't resist..."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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