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Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI think even JimL would pick up on the sarcasm involved there. He can't be as stupid as he comes across; IMO he just doesn't take us seriously enough to put much effort into his replies.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostNow there's irony for you.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Postyou keep using that word....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI quite disagree. The doctrines of the Trinity and Christology have implications which go quite beyond the theological arguments. This was a core part of the arguments of, for example, Athanasius of Alexandria and the Cappadocian Fathers for the orthodox position. A modern work which incidentally brings this out is Theological Dialogue Between Orthodox and Reformed Churches ed. T. F. Torrance (if you get it through ILL, you'd probably read the same copy I'm about to return, since I live about an hour west of you).
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSo, in your opinion, why is he here?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHe's got nothing better to do?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI think there's gotta be more to it than that, but, who knows?Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOr "heretic", then you could burn him at the stake like they did in the good ol' days. Wouldn't that be fun?
The faith designations on tweb are only used to determine what areas a member can post in. You have been here long enough to know that.
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Originally posted by JimL View PostSparko, illogical nonsense doesn't become justified simply because you think it's biblical. You are using the bible to justify your belief in what you would otherwise recognize to be illogical nonsense. Even you acknowledge this in the above when you say: "This makes 3 persons in 1 god. It's hard to understand, but it is the only logical explanation of the various scriptures without going to 3 different gods, or saying that the bible contradicts itself."
Yes, it is hard to understand, and the reason it is so hard to understand is because it is not a logical explanation as you contend, it's hard to understand because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, but if you are going to believe that Jesus is actually god then you are going to have to just throw your hands up in the air and say, well it's in the bible, so as ridiculous as it may seem, it must be so!
Your response was "duh! you said it was hard to understand! that proves I wuz right!"
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwhich, again, is more irony.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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