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  • #16
    Originally posted by Roy View Post
    You really should read things before commenting on them.
    And I wonder what these leftists meant by "legal objectivity is a myth."
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Roy View Post
      Not long. “The protesters interrupted me for roughly eight minutes, and only left when I tried to engage them on the issues.”.
      This doesn't answer my question. It says they interrupted him for 8 minutes, not that they stayed for 8 minutes, yes?
      No time at all, since there was nothing to re-cover or pick back up: When Blackman arrived, however, he was met with protesters who prevented him from speaking for the first eight minutes of his speech.
      Unless he's preternaturally gifted, it probably took him a minute or two to recover the proper frame of mind for giving the speech. Regardless, they wasted at least 8 minutes of everyone's time; it seems there was insufficient time to get to everyone's questions.
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      • #18
        yes the protestors have a first amendment right to free speech, but not at the expense of someone else. And disturbing the peace is against the law. This was a private event where people had invited a speaker. The protestors were not invited and were causing a disturbance. That is not protected speech.

        How would the left like it if every time a black person spoke, white supremacists shouted them down? What if that happened back when MLK Jr gave his famous speeches?
        Last edited by Sparko; 04-18-2018, 10:19 AM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          Why on earth would students protest a presentation on the First Amendment - while exercising their First Amendment rights? Are they that clueless?
          Blackman sounds like a snowflake to me.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JimL View Post
            Blackman sounds like a snowflake to me.
            I think conservatives are just getting tired of being shut down by clueless, emotional leftists.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Roy View Post
              Why is some-one presenting on the first amendment complaining about other people exercising it?
              More to the point why were those who were exercising their first amendment rights being such hypocrites in trying to shut down through disruptive tactics someones free speech?
              Last edited by RumTumTugger; 04-18-2018, 01:42 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                I think conservatives are just getting tired of being shut down by clueless, emotional leftists.
                Actually Blackman wasn't shut down, there was an 8 minute protest and then he gave his speech. Looks to me like you're the over emotional one.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Worth bearing in mind that the First Amendment is a restriction on the government in how it acts, not a human right and thus not a restriction on private citizens. It seems to me that the US conservatives often don't seem to understand that distinction and confuse the two, possibly including here. One private citizen is under zero legal obligation to respect the 'First Amendment rights' of any other private citizen.

                  Furthermore how the First Amendment is interpreted by courts is certainly a valid matter for debate and protest. e.g. Should corporations have First Amendment rights or should they only apply to people? To what extent does paying money count as protected speech (e.g. see Citizens United etc)? etc.
                  again you miss the point Starlight. This isn't about whether or not those on the left have the right to protest what this the speaker was saying but the hypocritical way they do it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by JimL View Post
                    Actually Blackman wasn't shut down, there was an 8 minute protest and then he gave his speech. Looks to me like you're the over emotional one.
                    another leftist idiot misses the point.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Roy View Post
                      You really should read things before commenting on them.
                      And you should try actually answering the questions instead of tossing out these impotent rejoinders.

                      And you continue to ignore the point that he was prevented from giving the presentation he had intended because of the interruption.
                      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                      Than a fool in the eyes of God


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JimL View Post
                        Actually Blackman wasn't shut down, there was an 8 minute protest and then he gave his speech. Looks to me like you're the over emotional one.
                        I'm speaking generally about recent conservative events being shut down by the left under the threat of violence or by violence.
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                          This was a private event where people had invited a speaker.
                          Most such events are public. How do you know this one was private?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            And you continue to ignore the point that he was prevented from giving the presentation he had intended because of the interruption.
                            Because it's not true. He wasn't prevented, only delayed.
                            Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                            MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                            MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                            seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Roy View Post
                              Because it's not true. He wasn't prevented, only delayed.
                              Again you are missing the point this leftist group was showing how hypocritical the left is to bad you refuse to see that.
                              Last edited by RumTumTugger; 04-18-2018, 12:01 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
                                Again you are missing the point this leftist group was showing how hypocritical the left is to bad you refuse to see that.
                                You probably should avoid Roy, RTT. You leave him WAY too many openings to nitpick.
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