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Starbucks' Reparations...
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostIt being illegal makes it worse. Kinda like human trafficking today.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostThat would be the perfect way to engender more hatred and racism between whites and blacks. Sounds like a perfect liberal plan.
So Obama's attitude of "we don't look backwards [at when the crimes were committed, so we don't punish criminals], we only look forward", is okay when talking about slavery reparations IMO because no one alive today was directly affected by historic legal slavery in the US, but it's absolutely not okay when it comes to Wall St wrecking the housing market which caused black people in the US to disproportionately lose out (due to having a higher proportion of their wealth in housing assets than white people) and lose half their wealth. IMO Obama (and the Republican congress that stopped him from acting) we absolutely morally wrong to bail out the banks rather than the people, and absolutely morally wrong not to imprison all the criminals on Wall St."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Dimbulb View PostBe glad it stops at coffee.
The government here's been forking out a billion dollars over the last 30 years in reparations, and the colonists here treated the existing peoples relatively nicely (compared to other colonized countries) and we never had slavery. Wait until someone calculates for you the reparations bill due to you for genocide of the natives, stealing all their land, kidnapping black people from Africa as slaves, slavery, the KKK's terrorism, Jim Crow apartheid/segregation, etc. You'll wish it only amounted to free coffee for life for all black and native american peoples.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seer View PostThe more I hear about this the more it is clear that these two guys were in the wrong. They were asked to leave because they were not buying anything, which from what I hear, is Starbucks' policy. But they refused - so the manager call the police, and they refused to leave then too. So they were arrested. Now everybody is calling this woman (manager) a racist, and she lost her job.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIf we are talking about reparations paid by the government, then we are talking about things the government did wrong. So long as the government made slavery illegal and made a reasonable good-faith effort to enforce that law, then it's in the clear and did nothing wrong on the subject. If it made slavery legal, or if it knew that institutionalized illegal slavery existed and deliberately turned a blind eye to it, then it did wrong and potentially owes reparations.
My own, relatively strongly held view, is that reparations are only relevant when the person who was wronged is alive to receive them.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postfair point.
right. AND the person doing the wrong has to be the one making the reparations. I should not have to give reparations to people who I did not wrong and who themselves have suffered no wrong.
A lot of blood was paid to free the slaves.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIn my case, AFAICT, only my mother's grandfather's side of the family was even in the U.S. by the time of the Civil War -- and they fought on the side of the North with at least one (my great-grandfather) being seriously wounded.
A lot of blood was paid to free the slaves.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostI guess you will get a prorated bill.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostMeh. Just take it out of the reparations owed to me for having one of my grandparent's barn burned to the ground during WWI because he was German (and while he was in the U.S. Army fighting in France).
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostMy grandpa was German and fought in ww2 on the Nazi side.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postyep.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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