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Atheists or Creationists - who's got more faith?

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  • Atheists or Creationists - who's got more faith?

    As many of you may recall, since my first day here on TWeb I've stated that Atheists/Materialists are religious folk - deeply religious folk - they just don't like to admit it. BTW, that is why I always capitalize Atheist/Atheism and Materialist/Materialism -- because theirs is a religious position every bit as much as is Christianity, Buddhism, etc. That religious position makes its way into Evolutionism (but that's another story).

    I recently came across the following short video (< 5 minutes) in which a PhD astrophysicist states the essence of one of my arguments. I definitely do not agree with everything he says but on that one point he is correct.

    https://www.prageru.com/videos/whats...-or-multiverse

    Be sure to enjoy, especially the Materialist/Atheist faithful among you.

    Jorge

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    Originally posted by Jorge View Post
    As many of you may recall, since my first day here on TWeb I've stated that Atheists/Materialists are religious folk - deeply religious folk - they just don't like to admit it. BTW, that is why I always capitalize Atheist/Atheism and Materialist/Materialism -- because theirs is a religious position every bit as much as is Christianity, Buddhism, etc. That religious position makes its way into Evolutionism (but that's another story).

    I recently came across the following short video (< 5 minutes) in which a PhD astrophysicist states the essence of one of my arguments. I definitely do not agree with everything he says but on that one point he is correct.

    https://www.prageru.com/videos/whats...-or-multiverse

    Be sure to enjoy, especially the Materialist/Atheist faithful among you.

    Jorge

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    • #3
      Cosmologists' argument: We know something caused our universe - we think it causes other universes too.
      Creationists' argument: We know something caused our universe - we think it wrote the Bible too.
      Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

      MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
      MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

      seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jorge View Post
        As many of you may recall, since my first day here on TWeb I've stated that Atheists/Materialists are religious folk - deeply religious folk - they just don't like to admit it. BTW, that is why I always capitalize Atheist/Atheism and Materialist/Materialism -- because theirs is a religious position every bit as much as is Christianity, Buddhism, etc. That religious position makes its way into Evolutionism (but that's another story).

        I recently came across the following short video (< 5 minutes) in which a PhD astrophysicist states the essence of one of my arguments. I definitely do not agree with everything he says but on that one point he is correct.

        https://www.prageru.com/videos/whats...-or-multiverse

        Be sure to enjoy, especially the Materialist/Atheist faithful among you.

        Jorge
        Stop trying to drag us atheists down to your level, Jorge. Atheism is no more a religion than not playing tennis is a sport.

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        • #5
          Everyone is given faith according to God's word by means of God`s word, ". . . So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world." The argument being that from natural revelation, Romans 10:17-18, Psalm 19:4, ". . . Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world." God having spoken the universe into existence and all the universe's laws being God's word.
          . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

          . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

          Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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          • #6
            No, this is the 'stop being such a hypocrite' argument.

            OR, if you prefer ...

            'be honest for once in your life' argument.

            Jorge
            Last edited by Jorge; 04-26-2018, 10:34 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              Stop trying to drag us atheists down to your level, Jorge. Atheism is no more a religion than not playing tennis is a sport.
              As most of your kind, you are (1) ignorant, (2) stupid, (3) intellectually dishonest or, (4) some combination.

              The US Supreme Court, as well as the Supreme Court of many States, have all ruled that Atheism is a religion. Don't take my word for it - look it up. So, your opinion supersedes their rulings - is that what you're saying?

              When I joined the Air Force (long ago) I had to fill out many forms one of which was to state my religion --- this was in case of a life-threatening situation (would they call a Priest, a Rabbi, etc.). The form contained a list of religions to choose from. In that list was ATHEISM.

              Get a clue, Tassman - or remain ignorant, your choice.

              You may now return to practicing your RELIGION.

              Jorge
              Last edited by Jorge; 04-26-2018, 10:33 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jorge the welcher
                The US Supreme Court, as well as the Supreme Court of many States, have all ruled that Atheism is a religion.
                Jorge said it, so it should be considered untrue until proven otherwise.
                Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jorge View Post

                  The US Supreme Court, as well as the Supreme Court of many States, have all ruled that Atheism is a religion. Don't take my word for it - look it up. So, your opinion supersedes their rulings - is that what you're saying?

                  No they haven't Clucky. SCOTUS has recognized atheism as equivalentIS a religion.

                  As usual is (1) ignorant, (2) stupid, (3) intellectually dishonest or, (4) some combination.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Roy View Post
                    Jorge said it, so it should be considered untrue until proven otherwise.
                    Look it up, Dumbo. You do know how to look things up, right?
                    Or do you need step-by-step instructions, perhaps written with jumbo crayons?

                    Jorge

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
                      No they haven't Clucky. SCOTUS has recognized atheism as equivalentIS a religion.

                      As usual is (1) ignorant, (2) stupid, (3) intellectually dishonest or, (4) some combination.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jorge View Post
                        As many of you may recall, since my first day here on TWeb I've stated that Atheists/Materialists are religious folk - deeply religious folk - they just don't like to admit it. BTW, that is why I always capitalize Atheist/Atheism and Materialist/Materialism -- because theirs is a religious position every bit as much as is Christianity, Buddhism, etc. That religious position makes its way into Evolutionism (but that's another story).

                        I recently came across the following short video (< 5 minutes) in which a PhD astrophysicist states the essence of one of my arguments. I definitely do not agree with everything he says but on that one point he is correct.

                        https://www.prageru.com/videos/whats...-or-multiverse

                        Be sure to enjoy, especially the Materialist/Atheist faithful among you.

                        Jorge
                        The answer is creationist, plain and simple. Atheist don't rely on faith.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jorge View Post

                          (snip the usual lies and dishonest spin)

                          As per usual vomits up some unsupported nonsense from a YEC website when none of the actual cases define atheism is a religion. The cases do exactly what I said they do, recognized atheism as equivalent

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jorge the welcher
                            Look it up, Dumbo. You do know how to look things up, right?
                            Naturally. That's why I know your list of cases is (i) from the COPE website, and (ii) garbage. For example, Torcaso v Watkins doesn't state that atheism is a religion, it states that some religions are atheistic.

                            It's also how I knew, unlike you, that your 'Dima' quote was fake.
                            Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                            MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                            MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                            seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by HMS_Beagle View Post
                              As per usual vomits up some unsupported nonsense from a YEC website when none of the actual cases define atheism is a religion. The cases do exactly what I said they do, recognized atheism as equivalent
                              I don't think Jorge believes there is any difference between 'equivalent
                              Last edited by oxmixmudd; 04-27-2018, 12:04 PM.
                              My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                              If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                              This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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