Same Sex Marriages and Sexual Orientation

[seer]

Fascinating.

I'm fascinating?

[Sparko]

I'm fascinating?

No, watching Carp try so hard not to give up a point in a discussion all the while insisting he doesn't dodge or dance.

[carpedm9587]

What myth? You do not know that the adoptive parenting that we are speaking of does not generally follow the step parent model. We do know that adoptive children generally do worse over all:

The Paradox of Adoptionhttps://ifstudies.org/blog/the-paradox-of-adoption/

And I did not make a sweeping generalization, I said that you probably were a good step parent, I know I was.

I addressed this. The data is fairly clear that adoptive parents actually spend more time, money, and effort in parenting than biological parents do. However, adoptive children will also, inevitably, have problems that bio-logical children won't. One of them is the pervasive view you just expressed, which undermines and diminishes. If society did not add the pressure, and use disparaging language (look up, someday, the source of the statement "put up for adoption"), and generally treat adoptive children as somehow less (are they your own children?), perhaps the phenomena you are describing wouldn't exist.

Really - it's like watching someone who beats on dogs that are yellow, and then say, "owners of dogs that are yellow are not as good owners of other dogs - look at how their dogs turn out."

Right, so there we may be able add those adoptions with low requirements to the step parenting model.

Which is why I said "maybe three"

Again, but is that exclusive? That those who engage in this behavior never mate with the opposite sex?

Are you looking for something specific here? Why is this question important to you?

I think I was fairly clear that permanent mating is rare throughout the animal kingdom, for all kinds of mating pairs (homo, hetero). It is even comparatively rare among humans. Studies have shown infidelity to be as high as 70% for women and 72% for men. In the U.S., almost 50% of marriages now end in divorce. That leaves comparatively few marriages that are monogamous from start to end and lifelong.

So I have no idea what you are trying to get at...

[carpedm9587]

I'm fascinating?

I'm going to guess Sparko is going to make a comment about "dancing" or "dodging." He's been on a roll lately...

[carpedm9587]

No, watching Carp try so hard not to give up a point in a discussion all the while insisting he doesn't dodge or dance.

Bingo!

[Cow Poke]

I'm going to guess Sparko is going to make a comment about "dancing" or "dodging." He's been on a roll lately...

Your "guess" came 4 minutes after he made the statement. Do you watch your dog sit, then quickly command "SIT" to pretend like you were in command?

[Sparko]

Your "guess" came 4 minutes after he made the statement. Do you watch your dog sit, then quickly command "SIT" to pretend like you were in command?

you beat me to it!

[Sparko]

Bingo!

[seer]

I addressed this. The data is fairly clear that adoptive parents actually spend more time, money, and effort in parenting than biological parents do. However, adoptive children will also, inevitably, have problems that bio-logical children won't. One of them is the pervasive view you just expressed, which undermines and diminishes. If society did not add the pressure, and use disparaging language (look up, someday, the source of the statement "put up for adoption"), and generally treat adoptive children as somehow less (are they your own children?), perhaps the phenomena you are describing wouldn't exist.

Really - it's like watching someone who beats on dogs that are yellow, and then say, "owners of dogs that are yellow are not as good owners of other dogs - look at how their dogs turn out."

Oh stop with the disparaging language thing, since I never did that. And the other problem is the lack of mother child bonding with the biological mother. Which is a chemical interaction: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3289392/

Which is why I said "maybe three"

Right, so where there is little requirement that could just as easily fall into the step parent camp. So again, biological parents are generally better than non-biological parents.

Are you looking for something specific here? Why is this question important to you?

I think I was fairly clear that permanent mating is rare throughout the animal kingdom, for all kinds of mating pairs (homo, hetero). It is even comparatively rare among humans. Studies have shown infidelity to be as high as 70% for women and 72% for men. In the U.S., almost 50% of marriages now end in divorce. That leaves comparatively few marriages that are monogamous from start to end and lifelong.

So I have no idea what you are trying to get at...

Well if a man or an animal is exclusively "gay" and gayness had a strong genetic component then that gene or genes would not be passed on. So exclusive "gayness" does not exist.

[seer]

No, watching Carp try so hard not to give up a point in a discussion all the while insisting he doesn't dodge or dance.

So I'm not fascinating?

[Cow Poke]

So I'm not fascinating?

Yes.

[Cow Poke]

[carpedm9587]

Your "guess" came 4 minutes after he made the statement. Do you watch your dog sit, then quickly command "SIT" to pretend like you were in command?

I figured someone might say that. I go to threads, scroll down to my last post, and then read up from there in order. I didn't see Sparko's post until after I made my comment and then continued on to the next post - which was his.

Of course, you only have my word for that. The timestamps certainly make it possible that it happened as you suggest. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.

[seer]

Yes.

Yes - I'm not fascinating or yes - I am fascinating?

[Cow Poke]

Yes - I'm not fascinating or yes - I am fascinating?

Absolutely.