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    Quote Originally Posted by Catholicity View Post
    So the bill passed and its been signed into law at least in Iowa. Now we watch the appeals process I guess.
    Actually, first there has to be a case - someone has to sue and show standing - then lose the case before an appeal can be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post
    2) Bush did.
    I mean going forward. Reagan had nominees as well but that doesn't matter now. I really think Trump will be a one term president and all bets are off once that happens.

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    3) Um, what? You mean the nominee? The Dems can't be that insane - it'd be nice, but that's unbelievably stupid for them politically. If they did it, since the only reason this would matter is if the nominee was conservative replacing a liberal, dragging it out runs a very real danger that the Court will act with only 8 - at which time it would be right leaning. If it were the other way around, it's still politically extremely dangerous - the Court is way too high profile.
    They haven't forgotten what happened with Merrick Garland, either. Given that even Mitch McConnell is on record saying he believes the Republicans will lose the Senate going forward, I'm going to say it's highly likely at this point. Assuming that holds, I'd expect a similar refusal to confirm any nominee late in Trump's first term. Frankly, they'd be stupid to allow it, especially with the precedent already having been set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I mean going forward. Reagan had nominees as well but that doesn't matter now. I really think Trump will be a one term president and all bets are off once that happens.
    Counting Trump out is probably what cost the Dems any real chance at the last election. It's too early by far to know what 2020 is going to look like.


    They haven't forgotten what happened with Merrick Garland, either. Given that even Mitch McConnell is on record saying he believes the Republicans will lose the Senate going forward, I'm going to say it's highly likely at this point. Assuming that holds, I'd expect a similar refusal to confirm any nominee late in Trump's first term. Frankly, they'd be stupid to allow it, especially with the precedent already having been set.
    I honestly think we need to amend the Constitution to make appointments automatic if the Senate doesn't confirm or reject within six months. That said, holding up Federal judge ships is one thing - a Supreme Court nomination is a completely different ballgame. It would only make sense in the election cycle itself and even then, it's risky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teallaura View Post

    I honestly think we need to amend the Constitution to make appointments automatic if the Senate doesn't confirm or reject within six months. That said, holding up Federal judge ships is one thing - a Supreme Court nomination is a completely different ballgame. It would only make sense in the election cycle itself and even then, it's risky.
    Garland was a Supreme Court nomination, not just a federal judge. Holding him up does not appear to have cost the Republicans anything. I really like the idea of your proposed amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    Garland was a Supreme Court nomination, not just a federal judge. Holding him up does not appear to have cost the Republicans anything.
    Nine months versus a couple years - although I see your point, the issue was the late nomination and was in the election cycle, like I said. I think the Republicans were in the wrong - although I did prefer the outcome.

    I really like the idea of your proposed amendment.

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