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  • #16
    Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
    Been having vivid hallucinations again?
    Are you under the delusion that Obama DIDN'T send pallets of cash to Iran?

    Allow me to refresh your memory:

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ran-paid-cash/

    The fact that American prisoners were released at the same time was just a coincidence. No, really.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Are you under the delusion that Obama DIDN'T send pallets of cash to Iran?

      Allow me to refresh your memory:

      http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ran-paid-cash/

      The fact that American prisoners were released at the same time was just a coincidence. No, really.
      That was Irans money to begin with, MM. The U.S. likely saved itself up to 8 billion dollars by settling the 10 billion dollar suit out of court. That's what you call a win win situation!
      Last edited by JimL; 05-08-2018, 06:42 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Been having vivid hallucinations again?
        His only problem is taking ff seriously.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by JimLamebrain View Post
          That was Irans money to begin with, MM. The U.S. likely saved itself up to 8 billion dollars by settling the 10 billion dollar suit out of court. That's what you call a win win situation!
          This has gotta be satire.
          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
          Than a fool in the eyes of God


          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            This has gotta be satire.
            Since I presume you have no clue on these things, here are the facts:
            1. In 1979 the US froze Iranian accounts, including $400 million that had been paid to the US for fighter jets that were never delivered. The US didn't get around to unfreezing that money and just pocketed the $400 million and walked away.
            2. An Iran–United States Claims Tribunal based in the Hague was established to resolve the legal dispute over this money. The tribunal process dragged on for years and years. Iran was seeking $10 billion in compensation.
            3. The rumors were that the the tribunal was finally going to make a ruling, and not in the US's favor. To preempt this, the US chose to settle the case. The settlement was to pay back the $400 million with accrued interest (totaling $1.7 billion). This potentially saved the US ~$8 billion if the tribunal had given Iran the compensation it was seeking.

            As Jim says, it was pretty much a win-win situation for the US, as they avoided penalties that could have amounted to $8 billion, and finally resolving the dispute put the Iranians in a good mood and they released some US hostages.
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            • #21
              Boeing to lose 20 billion dollars worth of aircraft sales to Iran because sanctions reimposed.

              All because Obama is black.
              “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
              “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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              • #22
                Will North Korea deal with a US that rips up deals?
                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  Boeing to lose 20 billion dollars worth of aircraft sales to Iran because sanctions reimposed.

                  All because Obama is black.
                  That's about the size of it, FF. Of course Trump will never openly acknowledge that it's because Obama's black, but his reference to Edited by a Moderator Africans and Haitians vis-ŕ-vis white Norwegians plus his relentless promotion of the birther lie make his position pretty clear.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    That's about the size of it, FF. Of course Trump will never openly acknowledge that it's because Obama's black, but his reference to Edited by a Moderator Africans and Haitians vis-ŕ-vis white Norwegians plus his relentless promotion of the birther lie make his position pretty clear.
                    It was also because Obama made fun of Trump in front of everyone at a White House correspondents dinner. Trump was utterly enraged, and I think his hatred of Obama and desire to destroy everything Obama achieved largely comes from that evening (and it's also why Trump refuses to attend any White House correspondents dinners now). Previously he was just a run of the mill racist, but that evening made it personal for him.
                    Last edited by QuantaFille; 05-09-2018, 07:33 AM. Reason: Quoting moderated text
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      That's about the size of it, FF. Of course Trump will never openly acknowledge that it's because Obama's black, but his reference to "Edited by a Moderatorhole" Africans and Haitians vis-ŕ-vis white Norwegians plus his relentless promotion of the birther lie make his position pretty clear.
                      Riiiiiiiiight

                      And Obama will never openly acknowledge that his reference to Libya being a "smiley bleep.gif-house" country reveals his hatred for those from the Middle East.

                      And it was Norwegians and Asians that he mentioned. Why do you guys always leave out the Asians? Oh, that's right. Including them kind of ruins your fantasy that he was racistly comparing Haiti to "white Norwegians."
                      Last edited by rogue06; 05-09-2018, 03:30 AM.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

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                      • #26
                        Will European countries buy fewer US parts so that they can continue to trade with Iran?
                        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                        “not all there” - you know who you are

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                        • #27
                          Will Trump have a war to distract you from the Russia investigation?
                          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                          “not all there” - you know who you are

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            And Obama will never openly acknowledge that his reference to Libya being a "[ATTACH=CONFIG]27732[/ATTACH]-house" country reveals his hatred for those from the Middle East.
                            Um, the references I can see say he described the results of the intervention in Libya as a "...-show". The reference was to the mess caused by US intervention there, not a general characterization of the country as a bad country, it was also said behind closed doors rather than announced in public. Also your quote of Obama is of the wrong word.
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                              Will European countries buy fewer US parts so that they can continue to trade with Iran?
                              Well Trump seems to be threatening to sanction any nations that trade with Iran. So if Europe gives Trump the middle finger, as seems quite likely at this point, and declares that Iran is upholding its end of the deal and that Europe is happy with the deal, and therefore continues to trade with Iran... is Trump then going to place trade sanctions on Europe???
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                It was also because Obama made fun of Trump in front of everyone at a White House correspondents dinner. Trump was utterly enraged, and I think his hatred of Obama and desire to destroy everything Obama achieved largely comes from that evening (and it's also why Trump refuses to attend any White House correspondents dinners now). Previously he was just a run of the mill racist, but that evening made it personal for him.
                                I totally agree. I had intended to include that episode in my post.
                                “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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