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    Abortion Is Equal To Murder?

    This is a syllogism by a cyber friend from New Zealand, Bnonn Tennant. I think the logic is solid.

    1.It is wrong to kill another human being for personal reasons (because it is murder)

    2.A human zygote or fetus is a human being

    3.Therefore, it is wrong to kill a human zygote or fetus for personal reasons

    https://bnonn.com/why-abortion-is-ir...ent-to-murder/
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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    Yes, this is true, may the Lord have mercy on us, and may he stop this.

    Blessings,
    Lee
    "What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)

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      Originally posted by seer View Post
      This is a syllogism by a cyber friend from New Zealand, Bnonn Tennant. I think the logic is solid.

      1.It is wrong to kill another human being for personal reasons (because it is murder)

      2.A human zygote or fetus is a human being

      3.Therefore, it is wrong to kill a human zygote or fetus for personal reasons

      https://bnonn.com/why-abortion-is-ir...ent-to-murder/
      Tosh and nonsense, sentimental garbage of the first order. Human beings are air breathing. A zygote has zero intrinsic value. The anti-abortion movement has always and forever been about punishing women for having sex outside of marriage - punishment they do not visit on the men involved.

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        Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
        Tosh and nonsense, sentimental garbage of the first order. Human beings are air breathing. A zygote has zero intrinsic value. The anti-abortion movement has always and forever been about punishing women for having sex outside of marriage - punishment they do not visit on the men involved.
        What definition of "human being" are you using to restrict it to air breathing?
        I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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          Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
          What definition of "human being" are you using to restrict it to air breathing?

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            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            Tosh and nonsense, sentimental garbage of the first order. Human beings are air breathing. A zygote has zero intrinsic value. The anti-abortion movement has always and forever been about punishing women for having sex outside of marriage - punishment they do not visit on the men involved.
            So a human zygote is not, well, human?
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              That is just stupid FF, even for you. Do you really believe that a baby one day away from birth is not human? What is it? A plant?
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                A woman with an infant likewise buys only one ticket. Does that mean an infant isn't a human being, either?
                Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  (...)punishment they do not visit on the men involved.
                  Do you think men should be able to opt out of paying child support? And how is it "punishment" to leave a child you don't want in the custody of the state? She doesn't have to even look at the child again if she doesn't want to. Nobody is forcing her to raise a child she didn't intend to have. Men are forced to pay for the care of children they never intended to have, and they can't opt out.
                  Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    That is just stupid FF, even for you. Do you really believe that a baby one day away from birth is not human? What is it? A plant?
                    It's a blob of tissue up until then, which magically and instantaneously transforms into a fully formed infant on the way through the birth canal.
                    Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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                    • #11
                      Abortion is equivalent to murder. The only reason it is not actually murder is that the law makes abortion an exception.
                      Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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                        If a really large guy flies on an airliner, does he buy two tickets or just one?

                        I'm used to pro-choice arguments being scientific poppycock, but this is a new low.
                        I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                          Actually it depends on how old the baby is. Our daughter flew a number of times with us just purchasing two tickets for myself and my wife. I believe that a baby can do this until the age of 2.

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                            Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                            Abortion is equivalent to murder. The only reason it is not actually murder is that the law makes abortion an exception.
                            The law has no bearing on whether or not it is murder. (This is where I disagree with J.P. Holding, when he argues that "thou shalt not murder" is not relevant as a Bible verse condemning abortion.)
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                              Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
                              Abortion is equivalent to murder. The only reason it is not actually murder is that the law makes abortion an exception.
                              https://eewc.com/evangelicals-open-d...iews-abortion/http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d050201.htm

                              This has always been the Jewish view. And Jesus was a Jew.

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